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Beck requesting nonviolence
Glen Beck Radio | Today | Glen Beck

Posted on 04/29/2014 8:52:21 AM PDT by wastoute

Well, I will do it if no one else will. Beck is imploring us to drop the hate and anger.

First, I don't believe it was anger in my heart that made me want to rush to Bundy's side upon learning SWAT teams were terrorizing him and his family. I do believe it was love for my grandchildren and their posterity than made me consider putting my life on the line.

I do believe that nonviolence requires several things to work. Ghandi knew his "audience" was the folks back in England who would find violence against him and his abhorrent. MLK knew the Christians of America in the early 60s would see the tactics of the Bull Conners abhorrent. Certainly, my parents did. So AN HONEST MEDIA is the first requirement of non violent resistance. Second, an authority that will respond to the passions stirred by that honest media. Anybody wanna place their grandchildren's lives in the hands of this regime?

I don't know which media Beck thinks will fulfill the first requirement. I know this is what he is trying to do with The Blaze I I love him for it. I pray for his success daily. I doubt his effort has enough momentum to carry this freight. As to the second requirement, see above. Would you trust the folks in DC with your grandchildren?

Our Saviour asked us to "be wise as serpents and harmless as doves". He asked us to love our enemies. At the same time allowing murder and corruption to continue is "conspiring to commit murder and corruption".

If I could be convinced there was a chance for nonviolent resistance to prevent another Waco or Ruby Ridge I would be all for it. At the same time I will not see another Waco and do nothing.


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To: wastoute
Glenn, I really think you're a great leader and have a lot of great things to bring to today's discussions, and things to tell the public, that most of the LAME Stream Media will NOT touch.

BUT ..... there ARE other parts of the Bible you MUST consider.

Who was Jesus before He was Jesus? Read John 1:1-16.
Who was Melchizedek ? Read Hebrews 7.
How did Jesus, through His Holy Spiri,t handle Ananias and Sapphira; did He forgive and forget? Read Acts 5.
Did Jesus allow the woman taken in adultery to be stoned, or did he stop it? Read John 8.
Did Jesus "turn the other cheek" to the den of thieves in His Father's Temple? Read Matthew 21, Mark 11, and John 2.

When Jesus returns, the time of "turning the other cheek" will be over.
Take a look at just how long "the house of Israel" shall be burying the dead that Jesus, the LORD, the Holy One, will have killed. Read Ezekiel 39.

Are you beginning to understand?

The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.

As EternalVigilance reminded us:

Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.


Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

Let's subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.


It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.


41 posted on 04/29/2014 10:09:18 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: wastoute

I don’t totally agree with Beck—but I understand what he is talking about. He is talking about changing the hearts and minds of the people, first.....it is like William Wilberforce did to eliminate slavery in England, which took 20 years of hard work and educating the masses, and he is trying to affect “culture”—the ideology of the masses. How the masses perceive Reality.

It involves invading the media-—and taking over movie production, TV programming and the schools, returning to Classical Education and returning local control of schools to parents. It is about retaking Popular Culture.

The masses have been brainwashed and dumbed-down, since forever—in a very powerful “Edward Bernays” fashion.

That is why Beck is trying to set up a studio and create movies, that which affects the “emotions” and “thinking” of children and adults. You have to win the majority and people have been so corrupted by the lies and misinformation (White Noise) and lack of Classical ideology-—that they are ignorant and only react to ‘emotion’ which is extremely dangerous.

This is a powder-keg. The Framers of the Constitution were the most well-read, educated people (and brilliant), and what they did was NOT based on emotion, but on Reason, and debate of a decade, at least. They tried to reason with an insane King, even.

But, at its heart, was a collection of men who were the most brilliant and well-read in all of history. They were products of the Enlightenment (Reason—not emotions). Most Americans were very independent-minded, and had Common Sense (Virtue), since they would die, if they had none.

They hated “dependency”.....which is the opposite of the masses today, who are lazy and lack Virtue, and are ignorant, and have absolutely no commonsense.

That said, the key in “change” is “education”. Beck is right on that. You have to “win” the hearts of the masses, which is very tricky in today’s environment of Psychology/drugs. Armed resistance can be used against us, because of the Leftist total control of MSM, most Information. It is pretty absolute right now—more so than Goebbels’ Germany, because people in Germany KNEW they were lied to....most people in America “think” they hear the “truth” and are too lazy and distracted by entertainment to seek it.

Look how they destroyed Bundy in a matter of a day....and made him into something evil and radical in the minds of MOST people. Yes, the informed understand the issues, but the majority are useful idiots....have been trained in public schools to be such idiots.

Beck is about changing the minds of the masses; To create Virtue (because as Socrates stated there can be no Free Republic without Virtue.)

Beck is afraid that an armed rebellion will end up like a Waco and at this point, he is probably correct....it will NOT lead to a Revolution like at our Founding. The masses are too dumb and too immoral (lazy) and are controlled by the mass media which is controlled by our government.

We need to educate and take back the institutions and it will take time and hard work and real sacrifice. It took 100 years for the Left to entrench themselves...we can not undo this damage in a minute, because of the mindset in all the useful idiots and their control of information.


42 posted on 04/29/2014 10:18:04 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I agree. I do wonder why if Beck is so very focused on being kind, loving and Christian...why does he do the Friday Moron Trivia?


43 posted on 04/29/2014 10:20:51 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Dead Corpse
They never tried it, did they? I said non-violent resistance. There was no resistance of any kind (except for a few trapped in the Warsaw ghetto).
44 posted on 04/29/2014 10:41:20 AM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2
Non-violent resistance is sitting there letting the bully take your lunch money and hoist you by your underwear on the flag pole.

You first.

Me? I'm gonna kick the tar out of that bully the moment he lays a hand on me and steal HIS lunch money as a lesson to all other bullies.

45 posted on 04/29/2014 10:45:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: wastoute

Dear Mr. Beck, Ghandi would not have won the revolutionary war. . .


46 posted on 04/29/2014 10:47:07 AM PDT by turducken
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To: GraceG

Glenn Beck has morphed into an ego maniac with a messianic complex. This isn’t India and Beck ain’t Ghandi.

Beck is pushing complete passivity. At this point I am somewhat convinced he may well be a govt judas goat. There is only one way we are going to get our constitutional republic back. That is to take it back.


47 posted on 04/29/2014 10:52:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Well, remember, this IS the guy who sat by while he and his family were accosted in Bryant Park, and someone kicked a glass of wine into his wife’s back. He said the next day he decided to turn the other cheek and love them....


48 posted on 04/29/2014 11:05:47 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I’m not “that guy” I guess.

I do not turn cheeks...


49 posted on 04/29/2014 11:20:16 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: wastoute

he went into one of these looney spells last year where he told his listeners if the government makes gun ownership illegal and comes to collect all the guns from your home ...let them have the guns, go to jail and call a lawyer...he said because the second amendment guarantees your right to have guns, people will eventually see you are right and everything will be ok ..

now he’s gone into complete pacifist mode, nothing anyone does requires a response other than “linking arms and marching”

I always wonder how a guy like Beck that claims to be so brilliantly “self educated” supports the second amendment...yet says their is no reason to ever resist with anything other than chanting kumbaya and taking a walk with a bunch of other people.....that amendment didn’t say you have the right “to keep and bare pair of marching boots around in case the country is in trouble”

I don’t believe in starting or participating in any kind of violence either, but there is a time and a place to take a stand against tyranny ...there’s a difference between standing up and fighting back and instigating or participating in violence..... I’m not going down on my knees in some peace march with good old Glenn...and that goof tries to make himself out to be a Texan ..good lord


50 posted on 04/29/2014 11:39:42 AM PDT by thestob (Paul Ryan is determined to destroy this country)
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To: Dead Corpse

I can imagine my husband displaying love toward someone who did that to me. Yeah...not so much.


51 posted on 04/29/2014 11:43:32 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: GraceG

That guy is becoming increasingly irrelevant.


52 posted on 04/29/2014 12:07:47 PM PDT by nomad
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To: ricmc2175

Ghandi only worked because the English were a moral nation. If he had faced an Adolph Hilter he would have been rolled over by a truck—before he started. Beck as done some good things—The Blaze—a counter newsorganization is tops—His support of the Tea Party was welcome—and his set up of a new news cable network (needs to be out their more) All of this is good—BUT his endless piching of ghost written books and events is sounding worse than BOP (what is his next book? Killing Allan Cooms?). His Preachness gets under my skin as well. Heck, I know he’s a Mormon and all—and I don’t mind him piching his beliefs (as I don’t mind BOR talking about the Roman Catholic Faith he holds dear) BUt when he starts to get on his soap box pulpet its terrible. Leave to Preaching to Rev. Franklin Graham or Pope Francis—You are out of your pay grade in this.


53 posted on 04/29/2014 12:35:12 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

So your solution is to allow only one side to inflict violence?
The BLM side?

The BLM inflicted violence on Bundy’s cattle and several protesters
before backups rushed in.

If Patriots had not arrived, more violence would have been inflicted.

You got a loose screw in your head dude.


54 posted on 04/29/2014 12:41:10 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You’re a funny girl, spreading your happy joy all over any threads regarding Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck.

Seems you have a touch of anger coursing through your veins.


55 posted on 04/29/2014 1:07:52 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Dead Corpse
How’d that non-violent thing work out for the Jews?

Check out his posting history. He would have been rounding them up for the SS. He would do the same today.
56 posted on 04/29/2014 1:32:00 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I see I’ve made a real impression on you. Thanks for following me around. :-)


57 posted on 04/29/2014 3:29:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Oh yes, quite the impression.

Miserable folks do seem stand out.

Cheer up GG, and try to hide the desire to turn others into haters, it’s an ugly trait.


58 posted on 04/29/2014 10:43:30 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: wastoute

Nut job

And he’s wrong.....even if we get lucky next two elections we are still screwed


59 posted on 04/29/2014 11:01:58 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Eagles6

As much as I detest Martin Luther King veneration he did not use the black panthers for anything

They thought he was a pussy and were still ascending when he died....Huey Newton openly disparaged King

King used loud mouthed Stokely Carmichael and Rap Brown as foils but his interaction with Panthers was minimal and his career was 90% done prior to Black Panthers formation in 66.....a year and a half later King was dead in Memphis


60 posted on 04/29/2014 11:11:35 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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