[Citizen Zed]

What's the best way to defend yourself from crazy?

[RKBA Democrat]

Citizen Zed wrote:
What’s the best way to defend yourself from crazy?

With a gun. Unfortunately the state of californication doesn’t agree. Live and visit there at your own risk.

[TalBlack]

The families of three college students stabbed to death by a 22-year-old before he gunned down three more victims said the U.S. health and legal systems valued the rights of the mentally ill over those who become their victims.

‘Course it does. That’s how it proves that it is ‘compassionate’ and ‘fair’ and ‘inclusive’ and generally better than you and me.

[dalebert]

right. We lost a child because of a mentally ill person being sent home for a weekend. The person had a history of violence and no supervision..left alone with children. it was 30 years ago and things are much worse now. policicians and gov run agencies are too occupied with themselves to deal with it. bonuses and retirement packages are all that count, jut like VA.Gov workers have no business in unions and I am now beginning to think should not vote.

[jocon307]

“[they] expressed incredulity that Rodger could have overpowered their sons by himself...”

I have wondered and wondered about that myself.

Presumably he took them on one at a time by complete surprise, but it is still rather confounding.

He really was a stone cold killer to do what he did to those fellows, who were his friends.

[Chewbarkah]

I am not blaming the victims, but surely they knew better than anyone what a complete lunatic Elliot Rodger was. Self-preservation might not be PC in some circles, but it’s actually the right thing to do. When someone is obviously not right and getting worse, report to parents and police. If that doesn’t work, run away, move out, gang up.

[raybbr]

"The system is clearly broken. It should have protected our sons, who were so innocent and trusting,"

No, you should have taught your sons to protect themselves.

[BobL]

If I posted on the Tribune site, I would have suggested that “maybe those parents should have thought harder about sending their kids to a ‘gun-free’ college”...just to taunt them a bit in their liberalism.

[MamaTexan]

When it's all done, the courts will say what they've always said:

The police are not liable for failing to protect you

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Part of me feels so badly for these poor people, the other part just wants to scream at them for the blind belief that government has ever had ANY interest in them at all.

[TurboZamboni]

http://www.amazon.com/My-Brother-Ron-Personal-Deinstitutionalization/dp/1477667539/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1403359225&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=my+brother+ron

America started a grand experiment in the 1960s: deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill. The consequences were very destructive: homelessness; a degradation of urban life; increases in violent crime rates; increasing death rates for the mentally ill. My Brother Ron tells the story of deinstitutionalization from two points of view: what happened to the author's older brother, part of the first generation of those who became mentally ill after deinstitutionalization, and a detailed history of how and why America went down this path. My Brother Ron examines the multiple strands that came together to create the perfect storm that was deinstitutionalization: a well-meaning concern about the poor conditions of many state mental hospitals; a giddy optimism by the psychiatric profession in the ability of new drugs to cure the mentally ill; a rigid ideological approach to due process that ignored that the beneficiaries would end up starving to death or dying of exposure.

I read this and was surprised how hard it is to get someone involuntaryily committed.(mostly thanks to the ACLU)

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Since the states don’t want the expense of having insane asylums, and nobody trusts the feds to do so, an alternative might be the creation of regional facilities.

Each state would pay only for the mental health care of patients it added to the system. And each state would also send its own physicians and nurses proportional to its inmates.

An important detail is that states could veto patients entering or leaving from other states. This would prevent one state from dumping all its problems there, and likewise prevent some liberal governor from letting all his states insane people go.

The facility itself would be set up with its largest section for the mentally incapacitated. Basically people whose needs are met but with no chance of recovery. It would be the section with the most visitors, possibly even having a light rail connection.

The next section would be for mentally incompetent but with possibility of recovery with treatment. More oriented to medical care and physical therapy.

The third section would be for criminal, but insane. A medium security facility as opposed to a prison sentence.

The fourth section is for violently criminally insane, who represent a threat to themselves and others. It is a maximum security facility. And there is no possibility of probation or parole.

[DownInFlames]

CCW

[Grampa Dave]

Affluenza Aspergers Syndrome Serial Killer Syndrome:

Apparently, the killer had been diagnosed with Aspergers according to ABC news (http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-uc-santa-barbara-shooting-identified-family/story?id=23853918). Didn’t the Connecticut school killer also have Aspergers? Hmmmmm. If it was not the Connecticut kid, it was another recent mass killer.

Yep, it was Adam Lanza, the Newtown killer, who also had Aspergers Syndrome. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9747682/Connecticut-school-shooting-troubled-life-of-Adam-Lanza-a-fiercely-intelligent-killer.html

Below is the link to the Google search re a link with Asperger and mass killers.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Aspergers+Syndrome+and+mass+killers&rlz=1C1AFAB_enUS489US567&oq=Aspergers+Syndrome+and+mass+killers&aqs=chrome..69i57.25832j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

[ronnie raygun]

This is thier world we live in. They want to dream that the mentally ill only need to be put in a normal situation and be trusted to take thier meds, problem solved. When things go wrong they blame inanimate objects as the cause and we need to do more to ban them. They are just as nuts as the nuts on the loose.