Posted on 07/05/2014 11:06:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
“Heretic!
vi is the only true editor!
/flamewar”
zeugma, zeugma, zeugma...
Vi is a great editing mode — for a real operating system, Emacs. :)
M-x praying-for-zeugma
Where is the “Like” button?
This will do fine. Thanks.
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works. — Alinsky's Rules for RadicalsLook familiar to a certain poster's tactics?
You can build Macs with ATX boards? Can you use an ASUS with a duel video and dual video cards?
What do you need? I know they had Macs running on Dells but they were very tricky. What O/S does yours use, does it matter? Is the performance the sane? Awesome!
I’d love t do this, say you mind if I pick your mind???
I’d love to have a Mac that was at a decent buy plus I could build it myself!
I'm not surprised because of the completely non-Christian attitudes he's presented, statements, and performance he's made in this thread. I am not shocked at all. Just saddened.
For a Christian perspective on such software piracy, I point interested people to the following discussions:
What the Bible has to say about software piracy, part 1—virtual preacher.org
What the Bible has to say about software piracy, part 2—virtual preacher.org
I am not perfect. I've downloaded and used pirated software in the past. But if I decided to use it, I bought it. There even may be some unlicensed software still on my computer, but I don't use it, and when I run across it, it's gets deleted.
Surprisingly, I've found some of the worst offenders in pirating software were school districts, non-profits, and churches. It seemed they have a sense of entitlement. Sad.
In any case, Apple will not go after individuals who want to make a Frankentosh. . . unless they attempt to produce them for economic gain ala Psystar. . . but they would be entirely within their legal rights to do so.
That unmentionable person wants to ignore the protections the Constitution provides to the creators of Intellectual property so that he can have what he wants cheaper, avoiding paying the owners of the rights their just due for their hard work. What a petty, selfish reason.
This petty lawlessness is more of the breakdown in the rule of law that we conservatives MUST stand united against. How can we criticize the President for ignoring Constitutional laws he doesn't like, if we ignore laws we don't like? We must not just observe the parts of the Constitution we like and ignore those we don't.
Not speaking out against it is tacit approval and it's allowing one more brick to crumble in the fabric of our Constitutional wall against the rule-of-men-barbarians and the difference between liberty and lawlessness. It is of such small things that our Republic will be eventually lost.
Sadly, the Republic is already lost. And the poster to whom you refer hasn’t a clue regarding Christian behavior. It is these same ‘christian’ people who will howl that you are not treating them like you as a Christian should when you expose their deceits. FR is becoming rife with such poseurs. It is part and parce3l of the missing taboo structure to America that once raised US to a great people. ‘Equality’ demands that everything be degenerated rather than hold excellence in high regard. Without a taboo structure —the thing the oligarchs purposely aborted, albeit a slow death with much writhing— a society falls into utilitarian ethic, so petty theft is not even seen as wrong since it is ‘utilitarian’ int he eyes of the sinner. Such behavior is not indicative of Christian Truth since we know God’s Spirit within is being squelched, terminally.
And you can guarantee that the one who wants to “build his own”, violate copyright after copyright, and software licenses, will be the first to bellyache and scream at Apple when their creation doesn’t work quite right - and will further preach that Apple’s OS and software is junk (built on the premise that it won’t run well on his own garbage hardware).
We're you the hall monitor in school? Funny, all the things you accuse me of doing, he accuses you of, funny that and you think you're the good guy.
You don't hear me whining when you accuse me of everything except serial murder (I might have to double check that).
Mac OS/X Snow Leopard for $19.95
I checked their FAQS and unlike Microsoft's insidious process, you don't need the previous version to install it (or purchase it cheaper which is their trick; I love digging up an ancient CD to install the latest MS O/S. Only got bitten by the cheaper con once), at least that's what the FAQs say. I'm sure someone, I'm not sure who, will be along shortly to correct me.
Wow, if that's the real O/S price, I can get some serious hardware to run it with money left over.
I suppose you've seen the old joke about emacs being a great operating system that includes an editor.
Actually, from everything I've seen emacs is pretty powerful. However, I started with vi, and spent a lot of time learning how to use it really well. Getting to the same point with emacs would take a similar investment. As I've already lost all my hair, I'm not going to go there. :-)
I, too, was once an irrational Apple hater.
I used to say that since a Mac couldn’t use “X” piece of hardware, then it was inferior. Then, when I became a business owner, I started looking at computers differently.
Flashy hardware and astronomical benchmarks became secondary to “will it do what I want to do, day in and day out, without me having to mess with it.”
What the computer could do became secondary to what the computer was.
Anti-virus/Anti-spyware programs, defraggers, registry cleaners, etc., are time suckers and waste money. I bought them, kept them updated, used them, but still somehow Windows computers would get infected, corrupted or in some other fashion taken offline.
I went with Macs because I can focus on doing my REAL job, running a business, not being a glorified IT guy. For those few programs that I must have that only run on Windows, I have VMWare Fusion.
I didn’t do it for the prestige of owning Macs. I didn’t do it for the politics of the board of directors. I didn’t do it because Rush uses Macs. I did it because they WORK better than Windows machines.
Does it include cowardly neglecting to mention said poster's name and I doubt you were talking about, "PreciousLiberty"
You two mention pirating a lot, reminds me of a preacher who rails at homosexuals and adultery. Then it's revealed they were 'tempted by Satan"
Pathetic.
I gotta disagree with you on this in part. If I buy a copy of OSX I really don't think it is any business of the publisher what I end up doing with it. They don't have to support it, but I really don't believe they have any more say in where it gets installed than what a lumber yard does over wood that I buy from them. I played with a VM of OSX a few years ago just to poke around with it a bit more than anything else. If i want to do OSX proper, I can use my wife's Macbook, but I can see uses for a VM of OSX the same way I can see the use of (non-networked) Windows machines.
I think the whole 'license' vs 'purchase' stuff as it regards software t be a steaming pile created by control freaks who don't really understand the difference between me using a personally purchased product as I will and someone cranking out copies for anyone who wants one. Since, we seem to have the best government that money can buy, they may have the law on their side, but I care about that about as much as I care about laws limiting the capacity of magazines on my handguns.
BTW, loved your previous post. Dead on target. One of my biggest peeves are windows users who make ignorant statements about other types of systems that they have never used or probably even seen.
Pinging you would be a courtesy. I don’t believe you’re due any courtesy. You are fraudulent.
"Permitted License Uses and Restrictions
A. Single Use License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, unless you have purchased a Family Pack or Upgrade license for the Apple Software, you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-branded computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. —Apple OSX Leopard Software License
This has been validated by the courts numerous times. You are simply wrong. And no, the principle of "first purchase" does not hold in this case because you bought a license, not the software itself, and you are permitted to sell the license to another party so long as the restricted terms of the license are followed. That has also been tested in the courts.
Be honest and just buy a used Mac and play with that if you want a less expensive Mac. Quit trying to find a weasel way around honesty.
I only accuse you of your actual bad behavior. i even listed it. You have to exaggerate and lie to make me look bad. Is that Christian behavior? I think not. Sad.
And THERE is the real reason we are Mac users.
Nothing cowardly about it. I am just damn tired of your invective you've directed at me and everyone who's disagreed with the Gospel of Lx. You are the coward, hiding behind a screen name to attack people with your nastiness. You knew who I was talking about. You are the un-christian acting person. You want to steal software, ignoring the owners specific license. Sorry, you are the loser.
Here again, you toss out a reference to homosexuality… interesting.
Absolutely right on point. I have acted courteously to Lx but he has refused to ever act courteously to anyone. Therefore he has not earned courtesy in return.
Apple DOES care where it is installed and under the Constitutional law, Apple gets to determine how their hard work is put to use. They limit where it can be installed in the license. Federal law says that is OK. Apple owns that software and they are merely giving you a limited permission to use it. You are NOT buying the software, just that very constrained, limited permission.
Microsoft makes billions of dollars for selling their OS. . . Apple does not.
Apple was required by accounting laws to charge distribution costs. That is why the $19.95 was charged for the media. It did not provide a profit. Now Apple provides it free because the accounting rules have changed. GAAP no longer requires it for downloadable software. OS X upgrades, even major revisions, are free to Mac owners.
I think the whole 'license' vs 'purchase' stuff as it regards software t be a steaming pile created by control freaks who don't really understand the difference between me using a personally purchased product as I will and someone cranking out copies for anyone who wants one.
Apple generally does not go after hobbyists who make Frankentoshes. . . but they are within their rights to do so. They have found over the years that most find the exercise frustrating and generally eventually buy a legitimate Mac.They only go after those who try to monetize the practice.
I did think as you thought at one time. . . but then I rethought it after a friend of mine spent $30,000 and ten months of his time developing a classroom management tool for the old Apple II. It was the most popular tool of that type. He sold exactly 347 copies. Why? Because school districts bought one, copied and distributed to their classroom teachers without buying licenses! Whole STATES did that! An Apple magazine picked it up and sent it out on a disk free of charge as freeware, without attribution! It got passed around from teacher to teacher. What was he charging? $20. He lost his shirt!
Again, someone has to take a stand for what is right. Laws about how many rounds in a magazine are wrong. This is not like that.
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