The Reign Of Windows At Work 'Is Coming To An End' And Macs Are Rising Fast

I hope there's no hard feelings.

I've seen the cup holder disk player and those things were expensive in 91, customer was not pleased and it was a pc.

So, there's still a killer loose in Stockton, I saw it on the news, there was a camera that caught the car that dropped the original thugs off and I guess the guy dumped it. Things like this seldom end well. I hope they catch him and no one is injured. I wouldn't worry about him but why should a cop have to live with killing someone who in anywhere but Ca. would get a needle?

Keep your eyes peeled and you families although I think this guy is gone.

I will check out the link, thank you. MS just ups the year this week or adds R2 on the server side, who knows what they'll come up with next week? At least Apple has some style but this has been through several revolutions including a CPU architecture change (which I know they wisely took into account in development) and it's still O/S X? Does the X mean more than version 10? MS would have given it a catchy name like 'Vista', that would have sold...

Vista wasn't that bad, MS did the exact thing with 8, they update a perfect O/S like XP or 7 and it's a dud but Vista wasn't a nightmare like 8 turned out to be, the Metro interface is so counter intuitive, at least the update to 8.1 is free. 9 is supposed to be great, I don't care, just keep the servers normal.

Does Apple still use the 'Power' nomenclature? I was afraid that Mac was a PPC since although it's do-able, coding in the original processor makes a little bit of sense if you want performance and I've seen XP boot on a Mac book faster than a fast PC. Granted the Mac was up and running so it's starting a virtual system but it was impressive. I'm looking forward to getting my Mac hooked up.

Nope. I never carry a grudge. We need to meet and have a Freep lunch one of these days.

The X in OSX is a Triple pun. . . for some a quadruple pun. The original operating system for the Macintosh computers was Apple MacOS and had reached version 9. It was at the end of its rope. Apple was completely dumping MacOS and moving over to an entirely new architecture built on a version of the OS they got by buying Steve Jobs' NeXT computer company. The new designation should have been MacOS version 10, but there would never be a MacOS 10.

Although there was absolutely no relationship between the old operating system and the new. . . Apple had to create a sense of continuity by maintaining the Mac name and a similar enough user interface. How? They incremented the number. . . Once. . . to 10, but made it a Roman Numeral. "X"

To prevent confusion with incompatible software, Apple dropped the MacOS and went with OS X version 1.

It is pronounced OS TEN, not OS EX, as some people think, and I heard some Best Buy sales guy arguing the other day.

The underlying operating system is UNIX, which ends in "X." The 3rd letter in NeXT is "X." And "X" is the unknown in an equation. . . and "X" marks the spot! (Those last two mean absolutely nothing!)

So, the "X" refers to 10, but also refers to the X in UNIX, the X in NeXT, and it implies the power of UNIX so it is doubtful that Apple will move to another number. Apple has already announced OS X.10 Yosemite.

I was kinda disappointed they gave up on the big cats. I was rooting for OSX.9 Smilodon and OSX.10 Sabertooth.

Apple dropped the "Power" line along with the PowerPC processors. . . again to avoid confusion in their customer base.

Nope. I never carry a grudge.

That's wise because I used to big time until it hit me (I'm a little slow) that it gets me nothing and in the end it's ~~usually~~ always about nothing, aaaannnnddd, it's like an acid in your system that eats away at you inside. So I stopped that B.S. and life is that much better.

We need to meet and have a Freep lunch one of these days.

That would be cool after my crunch time of the next few weeks is over and I see what I've got myself into although somewhere in Sacramento is probably best and we've probably met as the IT world is a small place in a small town. I used to know a guy who did dental offices in '91 so I might know your friend.

So, the one I had was on 9. It was alright and worked well but it didn't blow me away like O/S X or the 95 interface did. I knew it came from NeXT, people try to deride Jobs as a marketing guy and he was one and a brilliant one at that but he knew what he wanted, he may not have ground out the code but it was his vision sparked by Xerox that drove development of the (Lisa) Mac GUI and everything else. I like the story of how he was so mad that the display scratched on an Iphone, that attention to detail is what we used to expect from everyone. Him and Gates, I wonder what would the world be like if one or the other hadn't existed; they drove each other.

I always wanted to get my hands on a NeXT box, didn't they eventually sell the O/S by itself? Although it would probably be sitting next to my Solaris, Xenix and tons of Netware disks, I saw three 6.22 DOS disks the other day, I seem to see them every couple of months and they seem to move on their own.

I wish he had done his macrobiotic diet while also following the Doctor's advice. I've known of a couple people who had the fast version of pancreatic cancer and they are still alive after five years for the longest and she had the slow one.

What do you think will the impact be for Apple, has it been felt already? MS could use Gates, Ballmer just didn't seem to get it. I don't know how much Gates is still involved though. I was working on 7 and 8 side by side for a good friend a week or two ago and the big changes aren't what amuse me, it's the small stuff they changed that makes no sense. Like Office going to the 'Ribbon' interface; I can see change for improvement sake but hiding things or moving them is dumb. I didn't know they'd bought Nokia, and here they were in the Star Trek reboot although it was an alternate universe.

It is pronounced OS TEN, not OS EX, as some people think, and I heard some Best Buy sales guy arguing the other day.

Funny, I thought it was the other way around, I stand corrected although is there anything a Best Buy salesman doesn't know, how could he be wrong?

I like the cat names. Yosemite sounds like an MS pre-release name, before they spend millions on a study and come up with Vista. I'm dealing with an extremely verticle software company and they're tech support is busy guiding people off of XP. Funny, they should just give them the reg hack that makes it think it's server 2003 or the embedded one and still get updates. XP is a perfect example of a name not meaning much when talking about quality although it's supposed to stand for experience or something like it.

Re grudge. And much healthier. I learned that after my infarction 16 years ago. Grin.

Re lunch. Let's make it happen, if not dinner with our ladies.

Re: the one you had. . . If it was Bondi Blue could have been as low as MacOS.8.1 as that was the one of the Gumdrop Macs G3 shipped with first. But they'd even run up to MacOS9.1 (not 9.2, that was for a Mac that had EFI) and OSX.3.9 Panther. . . and some of the later ones shipped with 9.1 and could go to OSX.4.3 Tiger.

Re NeXT did sell the NeXTStep Openstep software for OEM installation on PC, Indigo, and even heavy duty Mac boxes, plus any UNIX boxes from 1993 to its sale to Apple in 1997. I drooled over one but the $20,000 price tag, and toy status for me was too great.

I was doing a lot a graphic art work on an Amiga 3000 at the time using a program called PageStream. . . Blew Illustrator, photoshop, Printshop, and QuarkExpress out of the water. It did everything in one package from graphic manipulation to pre-press including color separations, masking, half-tones, text entry, editing, character manipulation (twist, turn, spin, image fill, translucency, cut-out, fades), dye-process, everything you could imagine and some you couldn't, better than the separate apps in Mac or PC. . . and here's the kicker. It was developed by ONE GUY, Deron Kazmaier, working sixty miles from the nearest paved road (as he puts it "in the high plains of North Dakota"), where he lived with his wife, sixteen sled-dogs, a generator, and several computers so he could make it cross platform! It ran on Atari ST, Amiga, PCs, Mac, Linux, and some weird OS in Great Britain! He'd take a two month break from coding every year to train for and race the Iditerod! Would you believe he's STILL updating and supporting it?! He now supports Amiga, Mac OSX, Linux, and Windows.

Lx, in the older version, PageStream supported document to 2000 feet in size! If you could find a printer that large, it'd print it. If you couldn't, it would tile 8.5" x 11" prints and you could paste it up. In color. Lol! I've designed building projects in it! Accuracy to .000" in drawing, math aware input editing, with complex formulae, including vector drawing. Fontography, to .000 point. Love this program. Not too steep of a learning curve.

Unfortunately, my graphic arts business dried up as people learned they could turn out "ransom note" flyers and newsletters in Microsoft Word. . . and I lost interest in publishing (and the time to do it properly). Their work looked horrid, but they liked it. . .

Besides, I made lots of money cleaning up after them. The amateur fonts the sent to the printers invariably screwed up the printer's computers after uploading a few too many modified Helveticas and Times Romans that had been, shall we say, tweaked, by Joe Blow font monger, with the fancy newly Script font pasted into their metrics? That just help grow the other side of my consulting business. . . and I picked up some of my publishing competitors to network their businesses, as well as clean up their messy font collections.

One of my magazine publisher clients called me two hours before they had to hand carry the cartridge HD with that month's issue to the printer. The typesetter/graphic artist had accepted a last minute ad from a long time advertiser who had his secretary "whip the ad out" in her copy of some DTP. He had a custom font he'd had a high school buddy of his son design for his company logo he insisted on using. The guy dropped the ad into the space they were holding, dropped the font into the font folder, tweaked the sizes to fit, then saved the file. (No backup, of course!) and went to lunch. Deadline to leave the editing office was 3:00PM.

At 1:00 I got a frantic call. After getting back from lunch, the graphics guy, doing one more check, was horrified to find that ALL the body text was screwed up royally! Each character was separated from the next by several inches of blank space! There might be only three words on a page.

I got there by 1:30. I knew what was wrong. That "custom font," was a FrankenFont, made up of metrics borrowed from other fonts, with the coding left in place. Dropping the "custom font" into the regular font collection caused the correctly coded metrics to be replaced with the coding for FrankenFont, which in no way matched the size, kerning (the kid had no idea what kerning was), and hinting was. . . Oops!

Fixing it was not easy. . . Because the font they had laid the magazine out with—which they THOUGHT was legitimate—was itself, an amateur creation they'd picked up from an ad somewhere that had corrupted the legitimate Garamond! This meant that after replacing the offending font folder. . . and finding fonts for ALL the other ads. . . the layout of the body text was still screwed up.

60 some odd pages of text. . . Rekerning. Find widows and orphans. I know we missed some. I know the ligatures were all broken. . . and unfixed. But the drive with that month's magazine issue at 3:10.

I laid down the law. They bought the entire Adobe Font Suite $1800 per work station, IIRC. . . for every production computer. Accept an outside Ad? Fine. It's to produced on a QUARANTINED Mac. The ad is printed with the customer's supplied font as a high def image file. . . at an extra charge. . . and then the image only is exported to the magazine/newspaper/publication. The Quarantined Mac’s fonts folder is then NUKED! Rinse, repeat with the next outside ad. No custom font, no matter how cool is to ever be kept! NEVER allow any outside artwork with text onto the production computer, Mac or PC. THEY ARE POISON! I put a sticker just above the CD drive slot on the computers "NO UNAUTHORIZED FONTS ALLOWED!"

One week after I laid down this law, I was called back. A new graphic artist had installed his favorite "cool" fonts on all of the production computers and had already poisoned about half of the new Adobe fonts. "But they're so COOL!" This punk kid said. "The fonts on these computers were boring junk. You can download lots of better ones for free."

Sheesh. . . and they vote.

Word is that Steve had beaten the Cancer. . . but died rejecting the Liver transplant. I too wish he'd paid more attention to the doctors. . . but doctors can be deadly too.

Apple has already taken the hit of Steve Jobs' loss. Tim Cook was actually running Apple for the two years before Steve's death. Steve was acting mostly as an advisor.

Microsoft irritated so many power users with stupid changes in the interface to Microsoft Word. Use a seldom used feature and it's suddenly on the ribbon. Old stand-byes are moved to obscure locations. Mail merge changed so that old merged files such as mailing labels don't merge the same and can't be properly edited, keyboard short-cuts are arbitrarily changed for no discernible sane reason (that drove touch typists up-the-proverbial-wall). Some body needed to be at the helm, a Steve Jobs like leader, to tell MS that change is not to be made for change's sake, and there must be a hell of a good reason to make the change. Steve Balmer wasn't it. . . and should not have been kept at the helm for as long as he was. We Mac users used to facetiously hope they'd keep him around "as long as it takes" for him to run Microsoft into the ground. He may have done it.

I doubt bringing Gates back in an active management position would do much good, now. In my opinion, Gates was not much of a tech genius. He was an opportunist. (as, in a sense was Steve Jobs. . . but Steve Jobs had taste and a madness lacked by Gates.) Gates' talent was seeing the work of others and grabbing it for Microsoft. . . after sometimes filing the serial numbers off. . . beginning with DOS itself. Then add things like Disk Doubler, stolen from Disk Stacker, graphical user windows codes grabbed while working under contract from Apple to make Office for Mac, the GUI for Windows 95 itself from Apple, Windows Media Player which was found to include Apple's QuickTime code in its entirety (including markers such as an Apple engineer's social security number, his mother's maiden name, etc., imbedded in the code) which resulted in the infamous so-called $150 million bail-out of Apple by Microsoft in 1997, which was actually part of a multi-billion dollar patent and copyright lawsuit settlement Steve Jobs negotiated with Gates to avoid a protracted court trial which would have given MS a huge black eye and an even larger dollar loss.

Good afternoon. Sorry for the extremely late reply; I knew you had replied and I kept meaning to get to it and you know how things go.

The story about the fonts is funny, I've had my own problems with Bitstream fonts in Windows, I think 3.0? They would work fine until I needed to desperately print a document and then it would blow up and you couldn't just highlight everything and select a different font, oh no, you had to go through a nightmare scenario to get things working. I stopped using Bitstream after a couple of those wonderful 'features'.

I love your user who thought the 'free' fonts were cool, another hipster doofus but they do keep us employed.

An Amiga 3000, damn that brings back memories although the latest version of the Amiga I used was, I believe, a 2500. I remember that the 3000 required some massaging to get a toaster working with it. The Amiga's O/S was awesome. I liked being able to grab the top of the screen and bang, a new instance of Amiga DOS. Great machines, I wonder what it would cost to get a running one?

I'd really enjoy editing a document 2000' long, damn, I could imagine making a mistake, hitting print and going to get a cup of coffee and coming back to a mountain of paper.

I didn't realize MS had hosed, and blatantly I might add, Apple's code, too funny. I remember in Windows NT 3.1 getting OS2 error messages and thought that was funny.

I finally powered up my FreeMac and it is already running OSX! I don't know which one, it looked like the version 9 and older screen so maybe the previous user had done something, the current owner said it was majorly screwed up but I plugged it into a network port and was on the Internet without doing anything. I'll get the specs and maybe you can tell me what the best thing I can do to it. I've got different types of memory coming out of my ears so I probably have some that will work with it. I saw some 1mb SIMMS the other day and had to laugh; I remember when 4mb was hot s**t back in the day.

I'm still swamped but maybe lunch at the end of this month or September???

I'm sorry to hear you had an infarction, man, that is some scary stuff right there. You've made it 16 years so I hope things are good from here on out. A friend of mine who was in perfect shape had a mild heart attack, he almost didn't go to the hospital; good thing he did and now he's mellowed out and is supposedly doing good. I take my blood pressure meds like clockwork abd my blood pressure is always 120/80 which is great considering my mom had serious hypertension. One time my BP spiked to almost 200, it took them a week of me in the hospital for them to come up with the meds to control it. Thank God for Doctors and the scientific method!!!

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