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Ebola Surveillance Thread
Free Republic Threads ^ | August 10, 2014 | Legion

Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe

I have spent a little time compiling links to threads about the Ebola outbreak in the interest of having all the links in one thread for future reference.

Please add links to new threads and articles of interest as the situation develops.

Thank You all for you participation.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
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To: Smokin' Joe
Just how many Ebola vaccines does Canada have anyway?

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"What's Worse Than Ebola? A Brain-dead Polity

Ebola Pandemic: Risks and Realities

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A New Ebola Vaccine? Thank Dick Cheney

Obama brings in 1,900 people from another Ebola nation; Virus outbreak independent of crisis in

4,441 posted on 10/23/2014 9:08:15 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

4,442 posted on 10/23/2014 9:09:25 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Black Agnes

4,443 posted on 10/23/2014 10:04:46 PM PDT by Bobalu (Hashem Yerachem (May God Have Mercy)
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To: Dark Wing

Charlie Rose - CBS Morning News

39 Seconds
Connecticut Quarantines Nine Residents For Possible Exposure To Ebola

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b3SpQbQljg


4,444 posted on 10/23/2014 10:29:04 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Dark Wing
We are about to test the hypothesis of cooler climate Ebola Fomite spread.

I'm still concerned about more frigid weather, but I'm sure as hell am not going to rent any bowling ball or shoes.
4,445 posted on 10/23/2014 10:40:39 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
'I ain't taking the subway no moreFear panic spreads as NYC Ebola doctor's 10day itinerary [PHOTOS]

Official WHO Ebola toll near 5,000 with true number nearer 15,000

4,446 posted on 10/24/2014 12:00:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
GOOD NEWS! CDC Says NYC Ebola Doctor Cleared Enhanced Airport Screening

Feel safer yet?

4,447 posted on 10/24/2014 12:57:27 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Family, friends of Thomas Duncan protest outside hospital
4,448 posted on 10/24/2014 1:03:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Thud; Smokin' Joe; PA Engineer; Tilted Irish Kilt; Black Agnes; Shelayne; Covenantor; ElenaM
When the NY Times starts asking these questions about public health authority statements in the aftermath of the first press conference for the first NY City Ebola case, the Public Health Authorities have put their foot into the cow pie in terms of public credibility.


Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/craig-spencer-is-tested-for-ebola-virus-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html
Marc Santora Oct 23, 2014

A doctor in New York City who recently returned from treating Ebola patients in Guinea tested positive for the Ebola virus Thursday, becoming the city’s first diagnosed case.

The doctor, Craig Spencer, was rushed to Bellevue Hospital on Thursday and placed in isolation while health care workers spread out across the city to trace anyone he might have come into contact with in recent days. A further test will be conducted by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to confirm the initial test.

While officials have said they expected isolated cases of the disease to arrive in New York eventually, and had been preparing for this moment for months, the first case highlighted the challenges surrounding containment of the virus, especially in a crowded metropolis.

Even as the authorities worked to confirm that Mr. Spencer was infected with Ebola, it emerged that he traveled from Manhattan to Brooklyn on the subway on Wednesday night, when he went to a bowling alley and then took a taxi home.

The next morning, he reported having a temperature of 103 degrees, raising questions about his health while he was out in public.

>snip<

4,449 posted on 10/24/2014 5:09:52 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Smokin' Joe
Tracing Ebola Patient’s Possible Contacts Creates Host of Challenges for New York City

CDC allowed Doctors Without Borders to bring Ebola patient onto New York City subway

Markets Are Sinking (Ebola Fears)

4,450 posted on 10/24/2014 5:32:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Dark Wing
Here we go. NYC is now a giant petri dish that either confirms or refutes the many assumptions made about this virus. Dallas is a large city but not nearly as large or as dense as NYC.

I'm amused by the multiple contradictions being displayed this morning. The NYC health authorities are saying there's "no risk" to subway passengers, bowlers, diners, etc. yet they're attempting to trace each and every individual who had contact with Pt. 0NYC. So, is there "no risk" or are those people at risk? Pick one!

Another quirk in the plan: say the busboy at the restaurant at which Pt. 0NYC dined comes down with fever, intestinal issues, etc. and walks into an ER/doc-in-the-box/doctor's office. He's going to answer "no" to all the CDC-based questions--no travel, knows no one who has just arrived from infected countries, etc. Therefore the attending doc is going to assume noro/roto/etc. and send the busboy home, where the busboy stays until calling 911. The dispatcher asks the same litany of questions and because the answers are "no" the first responders go about it as always.

This could go crazy fast. I hope and pray it doesn't but seeing the multiple issues around this virus and its course in the US doesn't require a Stephen King level of imagination.

4,451 posted on 10/24/2014 5:58:01 AM PDT by ElenaM
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To: Smokin' Joe

So now the media is making a big deal about the Dr.’s temperature being 100.3 not 103. However, the 103 temperature had been reported yesterday and no one said it was not true until today.

I think the 100.3 was his self-reported temperature and the 103 temperature was what he had when he arrived at the hospital.


By the time the patient, Dr. Craig Spencer, an emergency doctor who had recently returned from Guinea, arrived at Bellevue Hospital Center in Manhattan by ambulance on Thursday, he was seriously ill, with a 103-degree fever and the beginnings of diarrhea, officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/tracing-patients-possible-contacts-creates-host-of-challenges-for-the-city.html


4,452 posted on 10/24/2014 6:14:52 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: freespirit2012
Another quirk in the plan: say the busboy at the restaurant at which Pt. 0NYC dined comes down with fever, intestinal issues, etc. and walks into an ER/doc-in-the-box/doctor's office. He's going to answer "no" to all the CDC-based questions--no travel, knows no one who has just arrived from infected countries, etc. Therefore the attending doc is going to assume noro/roto/etc. and send the busboy home, where the busboy stays until calling 911. The dispatcher asks the same litany of questions and because the answers are "no" the first responders go about it as always.

Exactly! I work in a major metropolitan teaching hospital that has been designated as one of the Ebola hospitals in my state. My daughter, who still lives with us, is a nurse in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit at the same hospital, which has been designated as the Ebola unit for pediatric patients in our state. So Ebola preparedness is on my mind (and peripherally part of my job).

I just watched a video of a "town hall" meeting our hospital had yesterday, and they seem pretty well prepared for most things. I was generally favorably impressed, except for the scenario you mention. This point was brought up, and their answer was basically... we don't have any way of preventing that.

And they also pointed out that with the flu season approaching, emergency rooms will be filled with flu patients and there's really no way to determine at that early stage which is flu and which is Ebola. They expect patients to come to the emergency department with flu symptoms "just in case" it's Ebola. So this definitely has the potential to quickly overwhelm the medical infrastructure, as well as the pre-hospital system (i.e., EMS) with both true and potential cases.

So this year, more than ever, get your flu shot so that you don't end up in the doctor's office or the local doc-in-a-box facility, or emergency department with all the other sick patients, some of whom may have ebola.

There have been many who have pooh-poohed the potential for Ebola to spread widely here in the U.S. because of our superior health care system. What they fail to understand is that precisely because we're used to being able to go the doctor for usually minor ailments such as the flu, we may actually bring the system to its knees, and facilitate the spread of Ebola. If an ED has no more room to put new patients because they're "r/o Ebola", then when a true Ebola patient arrives other patients and their families are put at risk when they otherwise would not be.

4,453 posted on 10/24/2014 7:38:11 AM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
New York cops apparently not briefed on how to dispose of Ebola bio-hazard waste

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Shocking moment bumbling cops leave Ebola doctor's apartment and

4,454 posted on 10/24/2014 8:57:51 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Nina Pham Press Conference. Nina Pham Speaks On Being Ebola Free

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuIH8GYrK4c


4,455 posted on 10/24/2014 9:25:34 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: scouter

So far the presenters have been singletons. Have first point of contact triage protocols been established in the event of multiple walk-ins during flu season? ER waiting room is stacked up with 6 or more flu symptoms and ala the busboy example there are two Waldos. How does one find the Waldo? Absent the miracle 10 minute tester recently announced.


4,456 posted on 10/24/2014 9:53:44 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: freespirit2012

IMO the 24-hour rule is applicable here - no stories in the first 24 hours a major event should be considered true. It is very easy for a 100.3F fever to be mistakenly reported as 103F.


4,457 posted on 10/24/2014 10:13:52 AM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud

that’s their story...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/nyregion/new-york-ebola-case-craig-spencer.html?_r=0


Health officials said that initial reports were incorrect when they indicated that Dr. Craig Spencer, 33, had a 103-degree fever when he notified authorities of his ill health on Thursday. He actually had only a 100.3 fever. Officials attributed the mistake to a transcription error.

That seems like a pretty big error to me and also one that is very convenient for the story they are pushing that he was not symptomatic and not contagious; Thus calming the fear in NYC.


4,458 posted on 10/24/2014 10:45:25 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: Thud

Also, I wonder what his temperature was when he reached the hospital as he has reason to downplay how high his fever when self-reporting it.


4,459 posted on 10/24/2014 10:47:34 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: Thud

It is very easy for a 100.3F fever to be mistakenly reported as 103F.

I don’t agree what happened to 100.5 ok to travel?
I don’t believe a word coming out of any govt employee right now there is no credibility

have you seen the movie the verdict?


4,460 posted on 10/24/2014 10:51:55 AM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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