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To: BuckeyeTexan

And you didn’t have to twist reality. Those ‘numbers’ leave out the rest of the story. The rest of the story that ignores the thousands of articles proving that fence reduced illegal immigration.

No, it didn’t have to be this way at all. I can remember several civil conversations with you on the subject. Then, a couple months back, you decided to spout propaganda. It’s in both of our post histories. You were corrected with several articles and you chose to continue pushing the memes a out the fence effectiveness. That was your choice.

Tell me what exactly do you suppose people opposed to the influx think when they see people on right wing websites posting provable garbage that supports the left wing position that fences do not work...right in the middle of an dem created, GOP supported illegal invasion? Do you suppose we are supposed to applaud you? Are we supposed to pat your back and say “Good Job Buck!”?

I hope if anything comes out of this, people look into the fence issue and see the thousands and thousands of articles showing the extreme effectiveness of the San Diego fence in reducing illegal crossings. Because you are dead wrong and there are millions of words printed, testimony given and first hand accounts PROVING it works.

The Perry strategic fence effectiveness is on display right now. Democrats simply refuse to allow the operators/agents to do their job. But you can’t turn off a fence. A real one.

And if a handful of determined illegals manage to climb it with one of Ricks ladders? So what? If it’s done right there would be THOUSANDS that were prevented. Tens of thousands. A month. And you think that’s a bad idea?

As you know, we have the tech to go coast to gulf coast. We CAN build it. And it is PROVEN to work. So it comes down to public will. Some of us fight for it and some oppose it. And there is not a single conservative argument that can be made as to why it is a bad idea.


874 posted on 09/20/2014 11:35:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
You confuse my pointing out the fallacies of believing a fence is the solution to secure the border with total opposition to a fence. You are wrong again.

You still got nothin'.

Enjoy some pics of your spectacular San Diego double pedestrian fencing.

Forget ladders, Norm. They've got axes and battery-operated saws.

And tunnels with electricity and rails.

And the cost? 14 miles of primary fence in San Diego was initially projected to cost $1 million per mile. It ended up costing $21 million per mile. Annual maintenance costs appear to be approximately $8 million per mile.

14 miles of primary fence for $294 million and $112 million per year every year after that. Now multiply that by ~2000 miles of border. Let's spend $16 billion per year to maintain a fence when we could pay $200 million per year to station a BP officer every half mile. Yeah, that's cost-effective.

BTW, that doesn't include buying land from private property owners, some of whom have been cut off from their own damn country. Fenced out of Texas and the United States. Oh well. Good luck to 'em.

880 posted on 09/21/2014 1:10:22 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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