Posted on 09/23/2014 6:28:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The proper answer to this is that it is not a topic to be discussed in public. The father is the Biblical, God-appointed head of the household. In that domain, the father is answerable ONLY to God. No person has a right to interfere or inquire.
Women who feel the father goes to far can and do leave. But they must be sure that the threat to then merits the consequences for stepping out of the authority of the husband. Women are required by God to submit to their husbands and so breaking that covenant should never be done lightly. It should be rare and done only in extreme circumstances. The 50% divorce rate of today is a sign that women have been taught by feminism to rebel against God.
Regardless of what happens, all details should be kept within the family, save the participation of trusted clergyman who is right with God.
Not that I am parent of the year but I think the key thing is actually enjoying and liking your children. There isn't anyone on the planet I'd rather be with more than my kids.
Yes.
“Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him.” -Proverb
It is better for parents to discipline a child early than to see that child disciplined by police later on.
The current powers in federal government give much evidence that they did not experience discipline when it was most needed.
Great post, Jewbacca.
I think the increasing problem with “spanking” these days is that some of the ‘parents’ doing the spanking are NOT mature enough to be CORRECTING their kids - rather, they’re smacking the kids out of their own displeasure and frustration.
I STILL believe the Bible is right: “Spare the rod and spoil the child.”
But you said it well - last resort and never in anger. Make the POINT to the child.
There is spanking and then there s beating. Spanking OK, beating not so much. I think the word spanking does not mean what Adrien Peterson thinks it means.
My son is 8.5 and I ‘ve only had whoop his butt 3 times,,, he is a better person because of them..
It called deterrence.
Well, if the child is truly incorrigible,
he needs to be taken to the city gates and stoned...
(just kidding!)
There’s a lot of information recently compiled on the biblical difference between “correction” and “punishment”.
Correction is done out of love with the purpose of redirecting the child to better choices.
Punishment is done to meet out “justice” out of your own sense of wrath (and that’s wrong).
These would include pillories and stocks.
Just the threat of the embarrassment of public humiliation would work many times.
When it didn't, trot the problem child off to be punished.
If a parent became over zealous, other parents or a cop could pull them away before the spanking turned into a beating.
spanking is fine unless/until you start liking it too much
Yep. Given a choice between swatting my child on the bottom to make her understand that Mommy means what she says and having my child run into the street and get hit by a car I’ll pick the spanking.
Is spanking always o.k.? A lot depends on the child. Sometimes a couple of swats on the bottom for severe misbehavior or disobedience is all that is needed. Sometimes you as a parent can tell it is not doing any good. At that point you really can’t keep spanking till you wear your arm out. It is better then to figure out an effective means of discipline or punishment.
As the child grows older and is more able to understand the why of Mommy and Daddy’s rules the spankings as a form of punishment or discipline should decrease. But a quick swat or two on a well padded bottom is not going to lead a child to the life of a hellion.
Children do know when their parents love them and as long as the hugs and affirmation come more often than spankings or other punishment, all will be fine.
Maybe they are angry because they don’t have a father in the ho house. Maybe they are angry because they are told over and over again by the Dem Plantation Overseers that they should be angry. Maybe they are angry because more and more they are shut out from entry level jobs because they lack the work experience and education to justify hiring them at inflated minimum wages. Maybe they are angry because their education has left them so ill prepared to function as independent adults in the real world. Maybe they are angry because they want to be in order to have an excuse for uncivilized and even criminal behavior.
I agree but it does not serve those who want to ban physical punishment of any child if that distinction is made clear.
How do Christians understand this Biblical admonition:
Proverbs 13:24 ESV :
“Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.”
Proverbs 29:15 ESV
“The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself brings shame to his mother.”
Proverbs 23:13-14 ESV
“Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from Sheol.”
A lot of parenting is about children learning that the parents are in control of them, not vice versa (as they seem to learn in school).
There are a lot of ways to demonstrate control, including spanking. However, if you beat the crap out of your kid, you only show him that you cannot control your anger.
Now, now what two consenting adults do in the privacy...
If a parent became over zealous, other parents or a cop could pull them away before the spanking turned into a beating.
Many people miss that this was exactly the point of the Old Testament prescription for handling the incorrigible.
The elders of the city were involved to determine if the parents were indeed experiencing incorrigibility or other action needed to be taken before the final judgement of stoning.
Ahem: reading comprehension.
You’re right: I misunderstood you. Mea culpa!
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