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The German Army Is Getting a New Machine Gun
War is Boring ^ | October 17, 2014 | Joseph Trevithick

Posted on 10/17/2014 7:08:11 AM PDT by C19fan

Last year, the German armed forces announced they would purchase Heckler and Koch’s MG-5 machine gun to finally replace a World War II-era weapon. The new machine gun should put the Bundeswehr’s existing weapons to shame—and make up for past failures.

“Its main feature is that it is much more accurate than its predecessor,” German army colonel Christian Brandes told U.S. Army reporters at Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona during testing of the new gun on Oct. 14.

The predecessor Brandes was referring to is the MG-3. That aging weapon is essentially just an upgrade of a machine gun Adolf Hitler’s Wehrmacht started using in 1942. The MG-5 will replace the MG-3 as well as some of the German army’s less aged, but somewhat inadequate, MG-4s.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: banglist; germany; mg5; warisboring; weapons
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Except for the Browning Ma Deuce the MG-42 is the most successful machine gun design in history. The US M-60, The Pig, was derived from the MG-42.
1 posted on 10/17/2014 7:08:11 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Familiar looking design


2 posted on 10/17/2014 7:11:59 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: C19fan
And now...


3 posted on 10/17/2014 7:13:56 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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I shot the Danish version of the MG-42 long ago. It was an exact copy in 7.62NATO. For a demo, they put the gun on the ground, on a bipod, and buried the ammo belt in dirt, sticks and pebbles out to the side. Then a Dane leaned over and fired the MG one-handed, on the ground. The gun ate the ammo without jamming. Then they did the same trick with another Dane standing on the end of the ammo belt, on the ground. The other guy leaned over again to pull the trigger. The gun dragged itself over to the ammo belt, shooting. I was impressed.


4 posted on 10/17/2014 7:14:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

The apple doesn’t fall very far from the tree, as they say.


5 posted on 10/17/2014 7:14:44 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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"The most successful in history"..?

The Germans lost, didn't they?

Seems to me that the FN-MAG (M240) and the Browning M1919 (and the Lewis) were far more successful than the MG42 and its clones in terms of armies winning wars.

6 posted on 10/17/2014 7:17:44 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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"The US M-60, The Pig, was derived from the MG-42."

The feed tray covers were interchangeable.

7 posted on 10/17/2014 7:19:59 AM PDT by Hillbillary
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WW II TF on the old model at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQwRjZByaok


8 posted on 10/17/2014 7:20:32 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary or Warren 2016! Why? Just to have a woman for Historical Purpose?? At least pick a looker!)
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The Germans lost, didn't they?

We didn't win in Vietnam. Does that reflect on the quality of our equipment?

9 posted on 10/17/2014 7:20:33 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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I think the soldiers and logistics probably have a little something to do with victory as well.

The WWII German Tiger tank was one bad a$$ machine, but they still lost.


10 posted on 10/17/2014 7:21:01 AM PDT by rbg81
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There is no doubt that the Germans had much better weapons than the Allies during the war. Their tanks, machine guns, and anti-tank weapons were vastly superior to what the US army had.

However, their supreme commander negated their advantages through poor Geo-political decisions. If he had not invaded Russia, but concentrated on beating the UK, he could have owned Europe.


11 posted on 10/17/2014 7:21:11 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: C19fan

I’m an MG-42, M-60 guy myself.


12 posted on 10/17/2014 7:22:15 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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I haven’t heard it called the pig gun in a long time


13 posted on 10/17/2014 7:23:25 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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“were far more successful than the MG42 and its clones in terms of armies winning.” wars”.................................... Especially when thousands more were produced and thousands more troops had them?


14 posted on 10/17/2014 7:23:32 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary or Warren 2016! Why? Just to have a woman for Historical Purpose?? At least pick a looker!)
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Seems to me that the FN-MAG (M240) and the Browning M1919 (and the Lewis) were far more successful than the MG42 and its clones in terms of armies winning wars.

Superior weapons don't win wars. Superior fighters or numbers of fighters do.

The MG42 was superior in every measurable way to the the M1919, just as the Panther tank was superior to the Sherman. And if the Germans would have had a Panther for every T-34 and M4 Sherman that was produced, I'm not sure they would have lost.

15 posted on 10/17/2014 7:26:14 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Chainmail
The Germans lost, didn't they?


Hitler was their Robert Macnamarra

16 posted on 10/17/2014 7:26:25 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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They were winning until they invaded the USSR and declared war on the U.S..

The best military in the world cant win with stupid people in charge.


17 posted on 10/17/2014 7:28:26 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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If the Germans stationed all the manpower into France and Italy that they wasted in Russia, the Allies might never have invaded either country. Likely, they might have just waited for the Atomic bomb to be developed, then that would have been that.


18 posted on 10/17/2014 7:29:26 AM PDT by rbg81
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“I haven’t heard it called the pig gun in a long time”

How did it get the name?


19 posted on 10/17/2014 7:31:37 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: proxy_user; PapaBear3625; Bringbackthedraft; SampleMan; knarf

/bingo

Hitler didn’t understand warfare from either a strategic or a tactical sense.


20 posted on 10/17/2014 7:36:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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