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The EPA Threatens to Ban – ARGON ?
Watts Up With That ^ | 29 October 2014 | Anthony Watts, Eric Worrall

Posted on 10/29/2014 6:50:04 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE

This gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “noble” cause corruption. Documentation follows.

From IceAgeNow - the American EPA has stunned observers, with a list of inert additives for pesticide formulations they intend to ban, which includes the noble gas Argon.

Its hard to imagine a more inoffensive substance than Argon. As a noble gas, Argon is chemically inert – it participates in no chemical reactions whatsoever, except under exotic conditions – there are no known chemical compounds which can survive at room temperature which include Argon. Argon is not a greenhouse gas. But Argon is incredibly useful to industry – among other things, is used as a “shield” gas. Anyone who welds Aluminium or Stainless Steel will be familiar with Argon, which is used with MIG and TIG welders, to blow oxygen away from the electric welding arc, to prevent oxidative damage to the weld joint. Any effort to regulate the use of this harmless substance would do incalculable damage to American industrial competitiveness, for no benefit whatsoever. See details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argon

So why on Earth would the EPA plan to ban something as inoffensive as Argon? IceAgeNow has a theory – they think Argon is part of a list supplied by a scientifically illiterate NGO, which the EPA plans to rubber stamp.

If anyone with any real scientific training whatsoever had seen this silly list before it was published, or had taken the trouble to do 5 minutes of research on each entry in the list, to discover how ridiculous and ignorant the inclusion of Argon on a list of dangerous chemicals to be banned really is, then the EPA would not be facing their current very public embarrassment.

A spoof?

No, the EPA even has a press release about it:

EPA Proposes to Remove 72 Chemicals from Approved Pesticide Inert Ingredient List

Release Date: 10/23/2014 Contact Information: Cathy Milbourn Milbourn.cathy@epa.gov 202-564- 4355 202-564-4355

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is requesting public comment on a proposal to remove 72 chemicals from its list of substances approved for use as inert ingredients in pesticide products.

“We are taking action to ensure that these ingredients are not added to any pesticide products unless they have been fully vetted by EPA,” said Jim Jones, Assistant Administrator for the Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention. “This is the first major step in our strategy to reduce risks from pesticides containing potentially hazardous inert ingredients.”

EPA is taking this action in response to petitions by the Center for Environmental Health, Beyond Pesticides, Physicians for Social Responsibility and others. These groups asked the agency to issue a rule requiring disclosure of 371 inert ingredients found in pesticide products. EPA developed an alternative strategy designed to reduce the risks posed by hazardous inert ingredients in pesticide products more effectively than by disclosure rulemaking.

EPA outlined its strategy in a May 22, 2014 letter: http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=EPA-HQ-OPP-2014-0558-0003 to the petitioners.

Many of the 72 inert ingredients targeted for removal, are on the list of 371 inert ingredients identified by the petitioners as hazardous. The 72 chemicals are not currently being used as inert ingredients in any pesticide product. Chemicals such as, turpentine oil and nitrous oxide are listed as candidates for removal.

Most pesticide products contain a mixture of different ingredients. Ingredients that are directly responsible for controlling pests such as insects or weeds are called active ingredients. An inert ingredient is any substance that is intentionally included in a pesticide that is not an active ingredient.

For the list of 72 chemical substances and to receive information on how to provide comments, see the Federal Register Notice in docket # EPA-HQ-OPP-2014-0558. To access this notice, copy and paste the docket number into the search box at: http://regulations.gov. Comments are due November 21, 2014.

General information on inert ingredients can be found at: http://www2.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/inert-ingredients-overview-and-guidance.

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Here is the GovSpeak document outlining the removal of 72 items:

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2014/10/22/2014-24586/proposed-removal-of-certain-inert-ingredients-from-approved-chemical-substance-list-for-pesticide

And here is the list:

Environmental Protection Agency

Office of Pesticide Programs

Supporting document to docket# EPA-HQ-OPP-2014-0558

Listing of 72 chemical substances proposed for removal from the currently approved inert ingredient list.

EPA-argon-list

The full list: http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=EPA-HQ-OPP-2014-0558


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Gardening; Science
KEYWORDS: argon; epa; epaoutofcontrol; globalwarming; pesticide
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Why doesn’t the EPA just call for the elimination of H2O and Oxygen? That would solve all their problems.


21 posted on 10/29/2014 7:27:03 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
From Wikipedia:

Argon is the third most common gas in the Earth's atmosphere, at 0.93% (9,300 ppm), making it approximately 23.8 times as abundant as the next most common atmospheric gas, carbon dioxide (390 ppm), and more than 500 times as abundant as the next most common noble gas, neon (18 ppm).

How come we're not dead already?

22 posted on 10/29/2014 7:30:03 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Argon is used in neon lighting too.”

If I recall correctly, it’s red. You can do some neat effects with an Argon tube by varying the power supply.


23 posted on 10/29/2014 7:30:14 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Regarding the “hole in the ozone layer” hypothesis, which underlies(pun intended) the banning of flourocarbons like Freon - “A faulty premise still leads to an invalid conclusion.”

The “Hole In The Ozone Layer” was discovered by Dr. Dobson at Halley Bay in the Antarctic back in 1954. GangGreen then claimed Freon released chloride ions when it broke down and the ions were destroying the ozone layer. Further, they claimed this would remove Earth’s UV protective layer and we would all die of cancer, sunburn, ad nauseam.

Two minor flaws were that the oceans are salt water, and release huge amounts of Chloride ions because that “salt” in the salt water is sodium chloride.

The second largest source of atmospheric chloride turns out to be volcanoes. Man produced additions to the atmosphere are insignificant.

GangGreen is dedicated to the destruction of American technology and capitalism. They have been successful by destroying one small bite of the American economy at a time, much as pygmies eat an elephant.

“If GangGreen said it, it’s probably sh*t!”


24 posted on 10/29/2014 7:37:40 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Lazamataz

The real problem is PROTONS, NEUTRONS, and ELECTRONS.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BAN THESE DEADLY THINGS????

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You forgot MORONS.


25 posted on 10/29/2014 7:38:52 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The real goal is to ban capitalism - one useful tool at a time...


26 posted on 10/29/2014 7:39:13 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

“Will the EPA regulate the CO2 fire extinguishers next?” What about evil soft drink/pop makers? Where’s the outcry? What a clown car we have running this country now. And it ain’t funny clowns either.


27 posted on 10/29/2014 7:39:46 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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28 posted on 10/29/2014 7:42:35 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I would tell a chemical joke but all the good ones ARGON.


29 posted on 10/29/2014 7:56:14 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: mad_as_he$$

We can be sure China will not ban Argon. More US industry will be outsourced. More US workers will become wards of the state. More money will be printed by the Federal Reserve to fund the increasing welfare state burden resulting from the outward migration of industry and the inward migration of millions of third world undocumented workers moving to a nation with no jobs.

What could possibly be wrong with this picture?


30 posted on 10/29/2014 7:59:38 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Eventually EPA will ban Oxygen. It is dangerous. It reacts with many other substances. It contributes to the forest fires that destroy so many trees every year.


31 posted on 10/29/2014 8:01:22 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: The Great RJ

lol - I’ve also wondered how many tons of CO2 are released each day by smokers...surely it should be banned immediately!


32 posted on 10/29/2014 8:04:18 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Argon sounds scary.


33 posted on 10/29/2014 8:07:29 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (AGW-e is the climate "Domino Theory")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

the third most common gas in the Earth’s atmosphere,good luck with that


34 posted on 10/29/2014 8:08:40 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Isn’t argon used in most double and triple-paned glass windows?

Yes. All of my vertical glass in the greenhouse uses argon. It provides efficient solar transmission and a useful U value of .2 for double pane. My roof glass uses Krypton for a U value of .1. Krypton is very expensive.

Difference Between Argon and Krypton Gas fillers For windows

This is pure idiocy and will drive window costs absurdly high. I take back the idiocy, this is evil.
35 posted on 10/29/2014 8:11:56 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: MrB

Actually, in spirit of the lead post, they should ban nitrogen - on grounds that it’s an industrial fertilizer, constituent of most drugs, commonly used in explosives, and is an asphyxiation hazard. (Some 78% of what we breathe is nitrogen.)


36 posted on 10/29/2014 8:13:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Let’s just make it simpler for everyone & ban the EPA.


37 posted on 10/29/2014 8:20:21 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: fuzzylogic
I’ve also wondered how many tons of CO2 are released each day by smokers

Just remember that every atom of carbon released to the atmosphere by smokers originally came out of the atmosphere through photosynthesis in the tobacco plant. The carbon is just being recycled.

While on the same point, remember that the net production of oxygen by a tree, from seed to full growth, death, and decay, is exactly ZERO. Every molecule of oxygen released to the atmosphere through photosynthesis is matched by a molecule of oxygen used to oxidize the plant material after the plant dies, whether the plant is eaten, burned, or decays.

38 posted on 10/29/2014 8:38:03 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Available from Amazon.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

There’s a reason they’re called VACUUM tubes! Lol.


39 posted on 10/29/2014 9:33:28 AM PDT by Moltke ("The Press, Watson, is a most valuable institution if you only know how to use it.")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
What you quote suggests that those inert chemicals should be removed from the list of hazardous ingredients. What's wrong with that?
40 posted on 10/29/2014 9:39:04 AM PDT by Moltke ("The Press, Watson, is a most valuable institution if you only know how to use it.")
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