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`Flame and Blame` uncovers Sherman's strategy of war on civilians
WIS TV ^ | Dec 05, 2014 | Renee Standera

Posted on 12/05/2014 1:01:20 PM PST by aomagrat

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS-TV) -

At this time in December 150 years ago, Union General William Tecumseh Sherman and his army were advancing on Savannah, leaving a wake of destruction behind. But the true wrath of Sherman's army was being reserved for South Carolina.

"He wanted to cripple the Confederacy," said retired University of South Carolina journalism professor Patricia McNeely. Since the campus survived the burning of Columbia, the Horseshoe was an appropriate place for our interview.

"He wanted them to give up fighting. He wanted them to lose faith in their leadership in the Confederacy. But most people have overlooked this. Because, when, when Columbia was burned, he blamed it on General Wade Hampton and the Confederates leaving cotton burning in the streets."

McNeely's book, Sherman's Flame and Blame Campaign explains a strategy that she says previous historians overlooked.

"This is a flame and blame campaign that I have found," McNeely said. "Sherman was providing all this disinformation early and during the Civil War and did not admit until 1875 in his memoirs that he had blamed the Confederates, namely General Hampton. For these reasons, everybody believed what he had said, the disinformation that he had spread, the propaganda that he'd deliberately used so nobody actually went through and saw the pattern of the burning and blaming."

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: civilwar; sherman; southcarolina; warcriminal
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To: aomagrat

The South was right.


21 posted on 12/05/2014 1:27:37 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas Vos Liberabit)
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To: aomagrat

I don’t consider Sherman’s March to be any different than the allies’ bombing of Germany and Japan in WW2. War is indeed hell.


22 posted on 12/05/2014 1:29:07 PM PST by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Rappini

That is conjecture...


23 posted on 12/05/2014 1:30:57 PM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("With the demonrats in charge, we find ourselves living in an ineptocracy.")
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To: FrankR

The folks along Sherman’s route at the time were better armed relative to his army than they are today relative to a modern army.

Today’s civilian firearms are utterly ineffective against tanks and really any fighting vehicle. While any southerner probably had a rifle every bit as good as the best in Sherman’s army. Throughout the war the Union had few if any armament advantage qualitatively. Their advantage was in quantity, which of course has a quality all its own.


24 posted on 12/05/2014 1:31:27 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: AlmaKing

War is the remedy of the enemy, I say give him all he wants.


25 posted on 12/05/2014 1:31:36 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: stremba

Well, the reason he didn’t burn Charleston is that he didn’t go there.

Some believe, not without evidence, that Columbia was burned because it was the city where secession started. Even without Sherman ordering it, many soldiers wanted revenge for the war.


26 posted on 12/05/2014 1:34:04 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: aomagrat
This is Obola's strategy as well.
27 posted on 12/05/2014 1:34:21 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Were Patton and Eisenhower war criminals as well?

War is hell. You have to know that going in and accept the consequences of losing the upper hand.

28 posted on 12/05/2014 1:36:17 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I thought the “army” in question was the looting and burning by protesters, not tanks, cannons, and bombers.

There will come a point where the folks will be tired of all this threatening and intimidation...when the looters become a bit too “brave” and cross the line, then there will be all hell to pay.

Civil war? I don’t think so, and if it is it won’t last long. Blustering before the cameras is a bit different than blustering before a gun barrel, a little more permanent than being on Youtube.

Liberals seem to wait until they have their opponents outnumbered, outsized, or outgunned before doing anything more than talking, or whining to “mommy government” to “fix it” for them.


29 posted on 12/05/2014 1:37:47 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: aomagrat

It doesn’t surprise me that Sherman created his own propaganda in the field. Sherman hated journalists. Didn’t trust any of them, and didn’t want them anywhere near his campaigns. If they came to camp, he threw them out. He believed they undermined the Union Army’s efforts to win the war, basically helping the enemy with the information they published. Looks like he spun his own war disinformation to the public just like the drive-by media does today.


30 posted on 12/05/2014 1:38:32 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

And the First Baptist Church here in Columbia where the S.C. Secession Convention took place is still standing, because its black groundskeeper misdirected Sherman’s men bent on destroying it.


31 posted on 12/05/2014 1:38:34 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: stremba
As one who is not particularly sympathetic to the Confederate cause, I must say that Sherman was morally culpable in many respects for the actions of Union troops. I do not believe, however, that he intentionally ordered his troops to misbehave. There were certainly civilian casualties during the “March to the Sea”. It is also true that Sherman did not order his troops to commit acts of violence against civilians. He did not, however, maintain discipline enough to stop such violence.

I also find it difficult to believe that Sherman intentionally ordered the city of Columbia burned. It is contrary to his behavior upon the occupation of other cities during the campaign. True, he did order Atlanta burned, but only after evacuating the civilian population. If he was engaged routinely in acts of terrorism against the civilian populace, why then did he not burn Savannah or Charleston? Sherman was no angel, and he does bear some of the moral responsibility for the actions of his troops, but it does seem that the burning of Columbia was not part of a terror campaign.

You cannot be serious.

32 posted on 12/05/2014 1:39:14 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: aomagrat

While in Georgia my Great Great Grandfather’s three year enlistment was up and “Unca Billy” came down and tried to get his unit to re-enlist. The unit politely refused and went home. They had had enough of those Southern boys.


33 posted on 12/05/2014 1:39:19 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: FrankR

Sorry if I misunderstood you.

I thought you were trying to say Georgians today could effectively resist a similar march by the US Army.

Which is of course nonsense on really high platform shoes.


34 posted on 12/05/2014 1:41:55 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: aomagrat

Compare and contrast Sherman’s operation to General Lee’s invasion of the North prior to the Gettysburg battle.

I don’t have them right in front of me, but I believe he (Lee) gave strict specific orders not to mess with the civilians in the areas his Army moved through.

Consider what would be the outcome if the respective Generals had utilized the others tactics.


35 posted on 12/05/2014 1:44:19 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: stremba

Sherman actually liked the South, having lived and served as Superintendent of a military academy in Louisiana prior to the war. He said he had enjoyed his time there, and had hoped to return to the South to live after the war. He wasn’t anti-slavery, but was against dissolution of the Union.


36 posted on 12/05/2014 1:47:18 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Sherman Logan

I live in Georgia, in one of the towns along Sherman’s route.


38 posted on 12/05/2014 1:54:18 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: cripplecreek

If Germany had never bombed Pearl Harbor we probably would not have involved ourselves until Europe had been totally dominated by Nazi Germany.

But, we’re Americans. We love a good fight and “Never Give Up”.


39 posted on 12/05/2014 1:56:36 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: telstar12.5

You know, I think our troops have figured out how to deal with that.


40 posted on 12/05/2014 1:59:05 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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