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Ohio Governor signs gun rights bill to reform concealed carry, suppressor use
Guns.com ^ | 12/20/14 | | by Chris Eger

Posted on 12/20/2014 2:50:52 PM PST by RC one

Republican Gov. John Kasich on Friday signed a bill expanding gun rights in Ohio to include the use of suppressors by hunters, concealed carry reforms, and mandatory shall-certify rules for National Firearms Act items.

The measure, H.234, had proven popular with lawmakers, passing the state Senate on Dec. 9 by a large 24-6 margin on its way to a 72-21 win in the House the following day. Beginning life as a bill that only legislated a repeal in the state’s ban on using legally possessed suppressors while hunting in the state, the measure over time grew to include a number of changes to the state’s concealed carry laws. These include reducing the number of hours required in training, relaxing the residency requirements to apply for a permit, and providing a grace period for renewals by active duty members of the military.

“The signing of this bill is a large step forward for firearm rights in Ohio,” Brett Pucillo, President of Ohio Carry told Guns.com Saturday. “We acknowledge that the bill is not perfect, but no bill will be. We acknowledge that the bill does not fix all of the problems we have with the current laws, but if we keep working hard and passing new legislation such as this, year after year, eventually, with determination, we will be where we want to be. This bill is progress, and we are very pleased that Governor Kasich has signed it.”

“This law is dangerous for Ohio communities that see gun violence strike all too often,” said Michele Mueller, the Ohio Chapter Leader of Moms Demand Action said in an emailed statement to Guns.com.”Some states like New Hampshire and Virginia have loopholes that allow convicted domestic abusers to acquire concealed carry permits. Those dangerous people will now be able to carry loaded guns in Ohio. We support the Second Amendment, and we will continue to fight for basic public safety measures proven to save lives, like criminal background checks for all gun sales.”

However, gun rights advocates in the state disagreed with that argument, pointing out that new oversights and safeguards built into the act will actually make the permitting process safer to the public as permit applicants will be screened through the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s National Instant Criminal Checks System.

“It restores rights that we’ve lost and it aligns it and makes it work better,” Jim Irvine, President of Buckeye Firearms Association told local media. “This is really good public policy. Currently, Ohio will issue concealed handgun licenses to people prohibited from owning guns. That’s bad policy.”

The expansive bill, modifies or repeals nearly 20 sections of Ohio’s current gun laws.

In analysis from the National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action, 234’s accomplishments include the following

Improves the concealed handgun license process by (1) reducing the number of training hours required from 12 to 8 hours, (2) eliminating minimum length-of-residency requirements, (3) allowing non-residents who work in Ohio to apply for a CHL in the county or adjacent county in which they work, and (4) makes special provisions for members of the military who have been honorably discharged or retired, extending their competency certification from six years to ten years after honorable discharge or retirement.

Expands concealed carry reciprocity to visitors and persons temporarily in Ohio who have valid out-of-state licenses, regardless of whether the license-issuing state has entered into a reciprocity agreement with Ohio.

Repeals the prohibition on Ohio citizens buying and/or selling long guns or ammunition from only the five contiguous states of Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. Citizens of Ohio can now purchase and/or sell rifles and shotguns in any state as long as the firearm laws in both states are obeyed.

Includes a “shall certify” provision which requires a chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) to sign off on an application to transfer an item regulated by the National Firearms Act, once the application procedure and requirements are met. This provision eliminates personal bias towards NFA-related items, requiring CLEOs to sign off and process the application in the same way they do a concealed handgun license.

Allows for the use of firearm sound suppressors while hunting in the Buckeye State.

Brings Ohio’s definition of “automatic firearm” in line with the federal definition, limiting it to only any firearm designed or adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger (eliminates the ban on magazines that hold more than 30 rounds IOW)

Notable is the law’s extensive reform of how NFA Title II firearms are regulated in the state to include suppressors and full-auto devices.

“With Gov. Kasich’s signature, Ohio became the fifth state to pass suppressor hunting and the sixth state to pass ‘Shall Sign/Certify’ legislation this year,” observed American Suppressor Assiciation President Knox Williams in an email to Guns.com. “We applaud the Governor for his action to help make hunting a safer experience in the state, and for helping to ensure that the right of Ohioans to purchase these hearing safety devices is not dictated by local law enforcement.”

As a sign of the increasing deference over the more appropriate term for sound moderating firearms devices, H234 replaces the legacy, “silencer” wording, in Ohio’s statutes in no less than four places with the more currently accepted term, “suppressor.”

The legislation will take effect in 90 days.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; h234; johnkasich; kasich; kenyanbornmuzzie; ohio; secondamendment

AND OHIO SCORES!!!!

1 posted on 12/20/2014 2:50:53 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

I think I’d claim to be in a permanent state of hunting.


2 posted on 12/20/2014 2:58:41 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It figures, I just spent $375 on a gun trust. At least I don’t have to go through the fingerprinting/photographing BS. Looking forward to hunting with a suppressor. I have done enough damage to my hearing over the years that I can’t risk shooting without a suppressor or hearing protection.


3 posted on 12/20/2014 3:04:23 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

The State where I was born has come a very long way. Congrats.


4 posted on 12/20/2014 3:09:30 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Bloomberg thinks he’s going to have better luck pushing his gun control agenda at the state level. Maybe in Washington state, but not in this state.


5 posted on 12/20/2014 3:26:35 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

Good for you. I may end up doing the same. If we can get rid of the intrusive NFA altogether, I will not regret paying $200 for the unconstitutional tax stamp.


6 posted on 12/20/2014 3:30:16 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: RC one

I do not think Ohio has the initiative process. That is how Bloomberg bought gun control in Washington State.

That and complete complicity by the old media.


7 posted on 12/20/2014 3:31:42 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Lurker

Another plus for John Kasich when he runs for Prez in 2016.


8 posted on 12/20/2014 3:35:36 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: RC one

Moms Demand Action is more AstroTurf than the carpet in the erstwhile Harris County Domed Stadium.


9 posted on 12/20/2014 3:48:39 PM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: marktwain

We definitely have the initiative process. One would hope that Bloomberg et al would deduce from the passage of this bill, that their time and money would be wasted pursuing something like I594 in this state.


10 posted on 12/20/2014 3:51:57 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: flaglady47

He knew he had a problem with sportsmen from previous votes. If he didn’t sign this bill, he would have been finished in politics. This keeps him going.


11 posted on 12/20/2014 3:56:01 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: flaglady47
8 Another plus for John Kasich when he runs for Prez in 2016.

I have long thought Gov. Kasich was too soft on the R2K&BA. Maybe there is hope for him afterall. An Ohio Freeper posted not long ago that he was embracing MedicAid in a big way. Can't recall his positions on illegal alien immigration or homosexual marriage.

12 posted on 12/20/2014 3:59:05 PM PST by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: MacNaughton

He’s my governor and I couldn’t tell you his views on same-sex marriage or illegal immigration either. However, he did join the lawsuit with Governor-elect, Abbot of Texas to sue Obama over the illegal immigration law. So, maybe that is where he stands?


13 posted on 12/20/2014 4:11:13 PM PST by Catsrus (al)
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To: Catsrus

Thanx Catsrus. I may move him back into my 2nd look category for 2016.


14 posted on 12/20/2014 4:26:20 PM PST by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: RC one

well the trust is still way useful b/c you should be able to use those for ccw.


15 posted on 12/20/2014 5:16:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RC one

Woo Hoo! Will now be able to remain legally armed when visiting the relatives in Ohio.


16 posted on 12/21/2014 4:04:50 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

awesome. I’m hoping this will end up meaning that I can carry in Pennsylvania now. I love Philadelphia but I can’t carry there and I don’t love it that much. Not sure how it will all pan out now.


17 posted on 12/21/2014 6:00:31 AM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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