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OK, is ANYONE here really off the grid ?
self ^ | January 3, 2015 | knarf

Posted on 01/03/2015 3:37:59 PM PST by knarf

I got an e-mail that had one of those, "I'm just a regular guy but I've discovered the secret ... " type message ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: alternativeenergy; electricity; energy; offthegrid; solar; wind
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To: thackney

It probably is 100% all the way. Yet what about the small magnetic field that is generated since it is AC. Does that cause a miniscule loss in the form of a magnetic field? So could someone argue that it is .000001 % inefficient?


101 posted on 01/03/2015 7:43:18 PM PST by Revel
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To: editor-surveyor

If you do a search then you find that there are WoodStoves approved for mobile homes. The main difference is that such wood stoves are set up so that the air intake for the fire box is vented to the outside. The government feels that otherwise all the oxygen is going to sucked out of the dwelling. Of course most mobile homes have more air coming in around doors and windows than a house, but the square footage is often much less.


102 posted on 01/03/2015 7:52:47 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
"There was no sense in over complicating things. "

Agreed FRiend!

Just having fun with the question.

(Harmonic distortion...) ;-)

103 posted on 01/03/2015 7:57:57 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Dr. Sivana; knarf; ansel12
Masonry Heaters.


104 posted on 01/03/2015 8:12:29 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If you are truly living ‘off the grid’ why would you be using anything from a municipality.? Hence you must provide your own which I described


105 posted on 01/03/2015 8:20:07 PM PST by Nifster
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To: central_va

You’d have to burn a heck of a lot of wood to produce enough steam for ( Any kind of )electrical (or power) generation!

I have a naval history book that has chapters describing the navy during steam conversion. Most of the navy’s time was spent setting up places around the globe to get supplies of wood and then coal. It made for some interesting arrangements.


106 posted on 01/03/2015 8:45:23 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Kirkwood
Very well skirted, all compromises on the underneath cover repaired (weren't many and they were small ) ... 2X6 construction (I assume well insulated), peak roof (again, I assume the insulation ... will not know until snow on the roof)

I've toyed with the idea of putting 1" styrofoam insulation around the inside of the skirting (16X70 ft mobile home, 4 block high, about 30" headroom underneath) .. and putting a thermostatted heat source to keep the floor warmer (though an electric MH is constructed with about 20" air space w/2 insulation blankets before THE FLOOR) .. so it may be a waste of money

Very cold weather for a length of time, and/or snow cover will give me a lot more information than what I have now

107 posted on 01/03/2015 8:50:56 PM PST by knarf
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To: wintertime; Alas Babylon!
It isn't pretty, but necessity is the mother of invention.

My workshop is 10x20 with no windows and the sun heats it up in summer. I have a work bench where I was doing some polishing and detail, so I put the cooler on a stool with the tube pointed in my direction and it did a great job. Like the video said I made it in about 20 minutes.

We have A/C in the house and it normally cools off enough to sleep comfortably with the windows open at night. So, I never tried it in doors. But if it got really humid and uncomfortable I'd be quick to put the thing on a chair and point it at the bed. I might even try it with dry ice. But, freezing the plastic jugs was easy, the fridge is always working anyway.

108 posted on 01/03/2015 8:52:37 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: Pollster1

I use a Heart, with a built-in 100 amp charger.

That way, if I have to run a generator, like for the well or a large power tool, I can put the excess output of the generator into the batteries.

I also have a 1500 watt Xantrex inverter as an offline backup to the Heart.

The total output of the main bank of PV panels is 900 watts, and I also have a smaller bank setup separately that keeps all of my spare equipment batteries fully charged.


109 posted on 01/03/2015 8:52:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: norwaypinesavage

I don’t know what you’re talking about. My fridge is in the kitchen and runs whether I have a couple of plastic jugs in it or not. Like I said, it worked great for me in my shop and if I was dealing with being unable to sleep, I wouldn’t hesitate to set it up in the bedroom where I don’t have a fridge.


110 posted on 01/03/2015 8:58:16 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: knarf

bump for later.


111 posted on 01/03/2015 9:08:49 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: knarf

Sta-Bil. I have to use it up about once every year or 1.5 years in my cars to keep it fresh.


112 posted on 01/03/2015 9:17:58 PM PST by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: central_va
After decades of cogitation on the subject, the only way I can see to get off of the grid is to burn alcohol that you produced yourself in a regular internal combustion engine powered generator. You would need a large distillery that produced 100 gallons a day(that’s a lot of alchohol) and it would not be a small operation but it would be doable. You could sell electricity to your neighbors to offset costs. Drinking the fuel is not advised.

I built a solar-powered still when I was a kid.
113 posted on 01/03/2015 9:27:10 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Rio; Mercat

You can get motors that run on propane.

Propane delivery trucks frequently run on propane.


114 posted on 01/03/2015 9:28:06 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Revel

I can’t agree....

I know the difference in the consistancy of room temperature...and my bills are far less....for the same area...it’s not like I moved walls.

Additionally the heat is warmer because it radiates....


115 posted on 01/03/2015 9:31:19 PM PST by caww
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To: Farmer Dean

Do you have a link or name for that type of set up....could it work for other than mobile homes as well????


116 posted on 01/03/2015 9:33:11 PM PST by caww
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To: knarf

You can never have too much insulation. Plus it pays for itself. I doubled all of insulation in my attic from R18 to R36 and silicone sealed all cracks. My all electric monthly bills dropped from over $300/mo to around $130/mo in Jan and Feb. Huge difference in comfort and the heater never kicks on until it gets to 36 degrees outside. Much cooler in summer as well.


117 posted on 01/03/2015 9:47:56 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: leapfrog0202
They absolutely are liberals. We live in Albuquerque and drove up for a day to see what we could learn, if anything, that would apply to our home. The people we spoke to in the earthship community were really out there -— way out.

Like Lilith Sternin and Dr. Pascal in the eco-pod ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw0nEXtF1f8
118 posted on 01/03/2015 9:54:10 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Kirkwood
I'm leaning towards the roof, but not now ... money, weather and my bones do not like to work in the cold ...

I still have some homeowners labor left in me ... won't pay for someone else to blow an attic.

119 posted on 01/03/2015 10:04:13 PM PST by knarf
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To: central_va

I remembered enough to find his first post. I’ll send you the link if you’ll please not make it public.


120 posted on 01/04/2015 12:19:13 AM PST by Bodleian_Girl
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