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Megascale Desalination
MIT Technology Review ^ | David Talbot

Posted on 03/03/2015 8:27:49 AM PST by hauerf

On a Mediterranean beach 10 miles south of Tel Aviv, Israel, a vast new industrial facility hums around the clock. It is the world’s largest modern seawater desalination plant, providing 20 percent of the water consumed by the country’s households. Built for the Israeli government by Israel Desalination Enterprises, or IDE Technologies, at a cost of around $500 million, it uses a conventional desalination technology called reverse osmosis (RO). Thanks to a series of engineering and materials advances, however, it produces clean water from the sea cheaply and at a scale never before achieved ...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science
KEYWORDS: desalination; israel; reverseosmosis; telaviv
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To: cuban leaf
We MUST stop desalinization plants because we have a global ocean salinization crisis!

That is an environMENTALists complaint. The area near the discharge pipe has higher salinatity.

41 posted on 03/03/2015 10:06:49 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

;-)

Exactly.


42 posted on 03/03/2015 10:28:00 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: VanDeKoik
I just wish they could transport the whole physical nation to the S. Pacific next to Australia where they can live in peace.

On a map, Israel isn't all that different a shape from New Zealand...

43 posted on 03/03/2015 11:06:57 AM PST by null and void ( If race doesn't matter, why does it matter so much?)
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To: DaxtonBrown
I’m in Nevada, we might pay to build to offset for Colorado River water.

I'm in Nevada too.

Maybe we could build a coastal California plant and a pipeline big enough to turn the Great Basin into a vast inland sea?

44 posted on 03/03/2015 11:10:20 AM PST by null and void ( If race doesn't matter, why does it matter so much?)
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To: hauerf

Will the islamanizies embrace this technology like they have the cell phone, also pioneered by Israel.


45 posted on 03/03/2015 11:12:07 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

If you Kalifornians would just ban private swimming pools you’d have plenty of water.


46 posted on 03/03/2015 11:15:00 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: hauerf

Santa Barbara has decided to re-open their plant. Carlsbad plant will be open next ear. We could use a dozen more. But the governor is spending billions for a high speed train in the central valet and “we” have voted to proceed.


47 posted on 03/03/2015 11:19:42 AM PST by morphing libertarian (defund Obama care and amnesty. Impeach for Benghazi and IRS and fast and furious.)
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To: OregonRancher

There’s about fifty pounds of gold in every cubic mile of sea water....


Do you have a source for this illogical comment?

Gold is heavy, it would sink to the bottom making it very easy to scoop up. There may be parts of the ocean with high concentraions on the bottom but to extrapolate that to every cubic mile is jsut illogical.


48 posted on 03/03/2015 12:04:51 PM PST by Steven Scharf
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To: Steven Scharf

NOAA

Is there gold in the ocean?

Ocean waters do hold gold – nearly 20 million tons of it. However, if you were hoping make your fortune mining the sea, consider this: Gold in the ocean is so dilute that its concentration is on the order of parts per trillion. Each liter of seawater contains, on average, about 13 billionths of a gram of gold.

There is also (undissolved) gold in/on the seafloor. The ocean, however, is deep, meaning that gold deposits are a mile or two under water. And once you reach the ocean floor, you’ll find that gold deposits are also encased in rock that must be mined through. Not easy.

Currently, there really isn’t a cost-effective way to mine or extract gold from the ocean to make a profit. But, if we could extract all of that gold, there’s enough of it that each person on Earth could have nine pounds of the precious metal. Eureka!

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gold.html


49 posted on 03/03/2015 12:06:45 PM PST by Steven Scharf
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To: VanDeKoik
They could do that exact thing if they took over New Zealand. Doesn't seem to hard to to me, all they would need is US weapons and satellite imagery plus a big boat
50 posted on 03/03/2015 12:27:43 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: thackney

Thanks for the clarification.
I was in Portsmouth one time when they were unloading a ship of salt. The ship was from South Korea and I was told by someone at the port that the salt came from plants in Saudi Arabia. I must have ASSumed it came desalination plants.

So, where does Saudi Arabia get their drinking water?


51 posted on 03/03/2015 1:12:59 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Saudi has a lot of Desalinization Plants. Maybe more than any other country. They tied the creation of them with a lot of power plants which is where I read a bunch about them.

But the output is saltier water. Removing all of the salt from a quantity of water is more complicated (expensive) than removing some clean water from salt water and sending the rest back as reject water. That reject water helps in a few ways, keeping a continuous process in liquid form that can be moved through pipes.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-23/saudis-start-production-at-world-s-biggest-desalination-plant


52 posted on 03/03/2015 1:43:04 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
10 miles south of Tel Aviv, Israel... is the world’s largest modern seawater desalination plant, providing 20 percent of the water consumed by the country... it uses a conventional desalination technology called reverse osmosis... however, it produces clean water from the sea cheaply and at a scale never before achieved...
Obviously, this is yet another disproportionate response by those Zionist Jews! /s
53 posted on 03/03/2015 1:49:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Steven Scharf
Califorina should be importing water via pipe from th4e Mississippi River. More than enough water in that basin to feed the west and Texas

Yeah, but Obama ain't goin' for any pipelines....could upset a desert mouse or something...

54 posted on 03/03/2015 1:52:09 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s in the article excerpt that 20 percent of the country gets its water from it; the $500 million will obviously be amortized over the lifetime of the plant, and the operating costs of a typical large RO plant used to somewhat exceed $1 per cubic meter. The article states that this is cheaper. The figure for annual operating cost could be estimated by the number of people to be served and the per capita water use. In most societies, domestic, personal water use is under 10 percent of total use, most is used for other things, such as irrigation, and commercial and industrial uses (including food-related processes like canning, bottling, cleaning).


55 posted on 03/03/2015 1:54:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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Based on a recent population estimate 6.2 million, one fifth of the population paid $404 a head for the construction, about $13 a year for 30 years; the per capita water use in Israel (2007 figure) is 281.9 cubic meters, but that’s all uses (including agricultural — Israel didn’t invent hydroponics and trickle irrigation, but is state of the art in both areas; used to be a net exporter, mostly to Europe, now a net importer I believe).


56 posted on 03/03/2015 3:33:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Water Desalination is becoming more profitable. I read an article that says it is possible to get the cost down to 49 cents per cubic meter using the newest ocean desalination methods. The current cost is 20 cents per cubic meter to make sure fresh water is sanitary. There are several desalination plants all around the world this may become a new industry. I was reading that there may be portable desalination plants as well.


57 posted on 03/06/2015 4:15:51 AM PST by citizen352 (Desalination of water)
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