Posted on 04/06/2015 11:47:50 AM PDT by C19fan
In a speech one month ago, the first black president of the United States challenged millions of white Americans to resist the convenient allure of overlooking the country’s blemished moral record. It was a dual challenge, actually—first to the classical understanding of American exceptionalism, but also to America’s persistent critics, who abjure the concept of exceptionalism altogether.
“What greater expression of faith in the American experiment than this?” President Barack Obama said. “What greater form of patriotism is there than the belief that America is not yet finished, that we are strong enough to be self-critical, that each successive generation can look upon our imperfections and decide that it is in our power to remake this nation to more closely align with our highest ideals?”
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Ran across a really interesting book.
Slavery apologetics by a minister, 1856.
LECTURES
ON THE
Philosophy and Practice
OF
SLAVERY,
AS EXHIBITED IN THE
INSTITUTION OF DOMESTIC SLAVERY
IN THE
UNITED STATES:
WITH THE
Duties of Masters to Slaves.
http://docsouth.unc.edu/church/smith/smith.html
The United States was quite magnanamous in not convicting each and every Bergdhal. We are very Christian that way.
I'm just saying they took their defeat like men and didn't spend the next 150 years complaining about it and coming up with excuses on why they lost.
Jefferson Davis ASKED for a trial but the Feds wouldn't give him one because the Feds would have lost the case as the USC is silent on the issue of secession. DO SOME RESEARCH before tapping the keyboard and you will save yourself a lot of embarrassment.
No. Copperheads were NOT great people. They caused all kinds of trouble in New York City.
I was at Appomattox this past November. It’s beautiful. I bought some Confederate flags before they were “disappeared” and spoke to the tour guides who were lovely. Many British people there - as always - looking around and talking up the Confederacy, lol.
I’m a South Carolinian and have heard every single, mealy mouthed excuse for the idiocy that was the confederacy and all of the traitors involved. Why some think they can get away with dressing up the shame of our region with false claims of a greater good, I’ll never know.
Funny you should mention the Constitution of the Greatest Nation on earth as cover for the treason of your fore fathers. Patriots revere it, and always have. It is the document that outlines how a free people will govern themselves.
Unfortunately, a minority of petulant children did not get their way so they turned arms on the good people of the United States of America. They paid with blood as was the will of God Almighty. They were put in their place by superior arms, brains and cause.
And yet you don’t see fit to fly either flag on your profile page. I realize you’re a n00b, but if you have time to post derogatory remarks about the region of America that displays the most patriotism, you have time to click on the flag of your choice. Unless the flag of your choice isn’t available, comrade.
“the region of America that displays the most patriotism”
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In this you are correct. The south is the most patriotic region in the country TODAY. But you cannot be a patriot and revere those who looked down the barrel of a gun at the military men who served and wore the uniform of the United States of America. Either you are with us or against us.
And you are clearly against us, with your warped version of history.
If you mean “us”, those who would take up arms against the US, you are right. I am against you.
The man's earliest social memories of any consequence were formed in Indonesia. His only early tie to anything American was a mother, who obviously hated America & Americans.
As to ideals: Has he ever said or written anything comparable as a source of ideals, or ideology, in anyway comparable to Washington's Farewell Address; anything comparable to Jefferson or Madison's contributions to our political literature; anything that even suggests that he has ever identified with the multi-generational quests of rooted American families, from first settlement to the present? Does he even care about those things; even respect the tireless struggle, toil, joy & heartache, of those families, in building that which he now seeks to degrade?
If the President even bothered to look at the America, the nature of which he so clearly disrespects; he would see that it is not an America that ever embraced or idealized collectivist/egalitarian values. Communism & National Socialism are not American goals.
William Flax
Now you’ve gone and done it....LOL
Slavery is slavery.
August 9, 1960
Dear Dr. Scott:
Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War Between the States the issue of Secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.
General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.
From deep conviction I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.
Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.
Sincerely,
Dwight D. Eisenhower
The other day, a longtime Freeper pegged Regal as a troll, possibly a retread. He often takes the opposite position of Freepers on any given thread.
I noticed him the other night when he posted that white people are whiners.
Thank you for saying that. I live only a few miles from Appomattox, and I agree with you about our beautiful Virginia countryside.
Honestly, though, I'll be very glad when this sesquicentennial celebration is over. They're expecting anywhere from 20,000-40,000 people. Appomattox has a population of under 2.500, and the little community I live in is only 1,400. We're all a little freaked out, LOL.
Wait until this liberal finds out Lincoln was a Republican, a Christian, and a racist that did not want blacks in Illinois.
Eisenhower’s liberal policies would make him a leftist Democrat today.
The War of Yankee Aggression threads have become a real nuisance. Every article posted on the subject eventually gets to 70 million responses, 35 million on each side.
No one is going to change their opinion and 150 years from now, the battle will still rage. Why?, because no one can get past the name-calling and a view of the war from different perspectives.
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