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How to learn 30 languages
BBC ^ | 29 May 2015 | David Robson

Posted on 05/31/2015 8:01:33 PM PDT by Cronos

Out on a sunny Berlin balcony, Tim Keeley and Daniel Krasa are firing words like bullets at each other. First German, then Hindi, Nepali, Polish, Croatian, Mandarin and Thai – they’ve barely spoken one language before the conversation seamlessly melds into another. Together, they pass through about 20 different languages or so in total.

It can be difficult enough to learn one foreign tongue. Yet I’m here in Berlin for the Polyglot Gathering, a meeting of 350 or so people who speak multiple languages – some as diverse as Manx, Klingon and Saami, the language of reindeer herders in Scandinavia. Indeed, a surprising proportion of them are “hyperglots”, like Keeley and Krasa, who can speak at least 10 languages. One of the most proficient linguists I meet here, Richard Simcott, leads a team of polyglots at a company called eModeration – and he uses about 30 languages himself.

..Numerous studies have shown that being multilingual can improve attention and memory, and that this can provide a “cognitive reserve” that delays the onset of dementia. Looking at the experiences of immigrants, Ellen Bialystok at York University in Canada has found that speaking two languages delayed dementia diagnosis by five years. Those who knew three languages, however, were diagnosed 6.4 years later than monolinguals, while for those fluent in four or more languages, enjoyed an extra nine years of healthy cognition...

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TOPICS: Education; Word For The Day
KEYWORDS: croatian; danielkrasa; ellenbialystok; epigraphyandlanguage; german; hindi; hyperglot; hyperglots; klingon; languages; mandarin; manx; monolingual; nepali; polish; polyglot; polyglots; richardsimcott; saami; thai; timkeeley
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To: dfwgator

Thanks — I did not know of this site


61 posted on 06/01/2015 2:53:33 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: dfwgator
yes :) -- the "rz", "sz" "cz" looks crazy to non-Poles -- "w szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie" -- but Polish is very precise -- "cz" is always pronounced the same way. English is crazy with "bough, cough, tough"
62 posted on 06/01/2015 2:57:09 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: beaversmom
In India you NEED to know at least 3 to get by :)

But I salute anyone who knows a non-Indo-European language in conjunction with an Indo-European language

So if someone knows Tamil + Hindi + English + Marathi --> that's impressive. Ditto for those who know an Indo-european language along with a Dravidian or other language

63 posted on 06/01/2015 2:59:40 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: beaversmom

Although I speak 3 languages, Mandarin Chinese has had me stumped for years. Tried Pimsleur, Michel Thomas Method, FSI, college courses, etc.

For me, the solution was Felix Lättman’s courses on Udemy.com. He’s got a free 2-hour course and two additional 10-hour paid courses.

If you take the paid ones, don’t pay full price. Udemy is always running specials that heavily discount their courses (typically only 10 to 20 bucks for course). You can find the promo codes for that by using Google/Bing. And often can find them at Retailmenot.com too.

After taking those courses, Pimsleur, Michel Thomas Method, and FSI are good choices because there’s a foundation in place for learning the language.


64 posted on 06/01/2015 3:33:56 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Hillary Kardashian Clinton - famous for being infamous)
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To: AZLiberty

bookmarked.


65 posted on 06/01/2015 3:59:32 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Cronos
The usage of “be” wihout conjugating is similar to what you hear from the West Country in England

Maybe they got it from early plantation owners.

66 posted on 06/01/2015 7:20:14 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The "legacy of slavery" is not an excuse for inexcusable behavior. --Thomas Sowell)
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To: Shadow44
My problem was I got to the point where I could understand the language, and then never got to the point of actually expressing myself completely.

That's really hard to do without immersion in a place where it is spoken and no one speaks English. Then you have to learn it the same way a child does — you use your limited vocabulary to work around concepts and then listen to what gets said back to you.

One time I was in Italy with my 5-year-old, staying in a village with a friend from school. Virtually no one spoke English. We were out sightseeing and my kid was getting a red rash under his arm from sweating. I stopped a lady in the street to ask where I could buy some talcum powder, but I didn't know the words. Finally I showed her his arm. "O!" she said. "Polvere!"—which I understood from the English cognate "pulverize." So I nodded and smiled, and she directed me to "la farmacia."

67 posted on 06/01/2015 7:29:25 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The "legacy of slavery" is not an excuse for inexcusable behavior. --Thomas Sowell)
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To: SandwicheGuy
Chinese and Japanese ... used pictographs, and you have to learn 2,000 of the little buggers before you are literate. Fortunately, a hundred or so will get you bed, bred and fed, so I hear.

That's interesting to hear. It aligns with my experience of teaching language to my cats and dogs. I do not expect them to speak, and I'm not just talking about commands, but rather for them to be able to understand and respond to my simple communications with them, and so that they can indicate their wants a little more clearly as well. I've had amazing results. My point being, they need about 65 to 100 words or word combinations to master their repertoire of typical experiences.

68 posted on 06/01/2015 7:41:35 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The "legacy of slavery" is not an excuse for inexcusable behavior. --Thomas Sowell)
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To: hole_n_one
Umpbay

LOL!

69 posted on 06/01/2015 7:43:13 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The "legacy of slavery" is not an excuse for inexcusable behavior. --Thomas Sowell)
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To: beaversmom
Thanks!!!

english is comparatively simple compared to most languages except for

  1. various pronounciations of the word "the"
  2. the past perfect tense "having had" tosses most people for a six
  3. completely illogical spelling -- "bough, cough, touch"


70 posted on 06/01/2015 8:38:09 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

For anybody out there taking the time to learn Klingon, except maybe those who are under the age of 12, it’s time to go outside and get some fresh air.


71 posted on 06/01/2015 8:43:26 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: beaversmom
I’m kinda reluctant to learn Spanish...maybe some hostility over illegal immigration holding me back, but I will put that aside and give it a shot. Always good to learn.

It's very helpful if you want to get any work done on your lawn and garden. I'm not kidding. Good workers, but they go so fast— watch out for those leaf blowers. They blew my lavender plants right out of the ground.

72 posted on 06/01/2015 8:56:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The "legacy of slavery" is not an excuse for inexcusable behavior. --Thomas Sowell)
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To: Cronos
plus, it is fun to learn another language!

Correction: it's impossible to learn another language!

Like one of the people mentioned in the article, I have a lifetime love of languages. I used to listen to short wave broadcasts back in the 70s and 80s and enjoyed just hearing exotic languages. One of my favorite things on the Internet is getting to listen to languages that my grandparents lived and died without hearing a single word of. And not this mainstream stuff . . . I mean really exotic stuff like Maltese, Breton, Basque, Greenlandic, Georgian, Albanian, Mongolian. Stuff like that. I can't and never will understand a word, but I just love listening (or reading) and knowing what they sound (or look) like.

I've tried to learn languages all my life and have been successful only with one: Biblical Hebrew, a textual language which is acquired and learned visually. I've tried to learn Israeli Hebrew for decades and simply can't do it. As the article says, I can't instantaneously translate in my mind and send it to my tongue at one and the same time.

Well . . . now I know why. I'm the farthest thing from a "chameleon" one can possibly be. I am but a simple redneck and unable to put on any other skin.

It's nice to finally know what my handicap has been.

73 posted on 06/01/2015 9:12:38 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Cronos; All

This is an absolutely mesmerizing thread. We need more like it!


74 posted on 06/01/2015 9:55:33 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: SandwicheGuy
Can a country be a country if there is no common language?

I heard a fellow from India on a Canadian call-in show (radio) years ago mention the greatest benefit the British gave India was a common language.

75 posted on 06/01/2015 10:01:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Suz in AZ

That’s interesting!

There are many dialects in China, but the characters are the same for all.

Aeons ago, a sect over the mountain would speak in a completely different sounding dialect from the dialect on this side of the mountain, but they understood each other by the printed character.

Cantonese and Mandarin are different, but the characters for each are the same.

Somewhere I read that it was this unity of the Chinese character and the Confucius principle that has kept China unified over the years.


76 posted on 06/01/2015 10:02:30 AM PDT by Exit148 ((Loose Change Club founder) Put yours aside for the next Freepathon!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
As the article says, I can't instantaneously translate in my mind and send it to my tongue at one and the same time.

That's right ... and that's a poor way to learn a language.

I knew I was getting somewhere in high school when I realize I was thinking in French ... no translation involved. Humor is a great way to get there. Jokes don't translate very well.

77 posted on 06/01/2015 10:03:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: dfwgator

My husband got a job in a French speaking country. He bought Rosetta Stone. I had a lot of French in high school and college- about 6 year’s worth but that was over 35 years ago.
I hated Rosetta Stone. My daughter likes Duolingo, but I found I liked Frenchpod the best, and it’s free, too. There are quite a few languages available-

http://languagepod101.com/


78 posted on 06/01/2015 10:53:02 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: pops88

I can read French real good now, but understanding spoken French is the problem, I can’t tell where one word ends and the other begins, other languages aren’t nearly as difficult as French in that area. The French don’t exactly annunciate their words.


79 posted on 06/01/2015 11:00:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Same with me. I figure it’s the wine- they slur their words ;)


80 posted on 06/01/2015 11:09:42 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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