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Here’s Why My Dad Will Never Buy Anything But a Lexus Ever Again
Jalopnik ^ | 6/24/15 | Doug DeMuro

Posted on 06/24/2015 9:13:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: bgill

The only auto brands that aren’t all-in on the perv lifestyles are Hyundai/Kia. By contrast, GM is the most perv-friendly.


21 posted on 06/24/2015 11:15:55 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: doorgunner69; Organic Panic; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; nickcarraway; Polynikes; SunkenCiv; ...

I am a 76 year old widow with a replacement car decision problem. We bought a 96 4-cylinder Caravan with 33,000 miles in 2000. It now has 108,000 miles, and for the past 5 years I have been driving about 3,000 miles a year. It is long since paid for and has not had any serious very expensive repair needs. I got my first license just before my husband died, and this is the only car I have ever driven. The year after he died I made a 3,000 mile adventure trip with the back seats down and a mattress in back and slept in cheap camps or overnight in Interstate parking lots. The van was getting 24 to 28 miles per gallon, and needed a quart of oil every 1,000 miles (slow oil drip, $600 repair estimate, why bother?) A few other minor problems I can live with. Four tires that still have about 20,000 miles life on them.

I have Googled for information about the expected useful life of a ‘96 Dodge Caravan. The impression I get is that some people get a lemon and are constantly having expensive trouble while others have minor issues and easily get to 200,000. I think my car fits in the latter category. I use it a lot for work I do renovating houses. Trips for lumber, etc. to Home Depot. Trips to dump with debris and old stuff. Will need to do that for another 2 or 3 years.

My problem is that my new guy (probably long term) wants me to buy a new car. I don’t want to go back into debt, having just gotten ahead a bit, and even if I did get a newer car, would probably want one with 20,000 to 30,000 on it to avoid the depreciation of a new one. Also, I want a car with good mileage that I can go camping in like my 3000 mile adventure, and can use for renovating and dumping. On the other hand I don’t want to make my guy mad or loose respect for my decisions. So I have two major questions. 1) Is my Caravan likely to hold up OK for another 10 or 20,000 miles. 2) What might be a good used car that meets my current and future needs. I am in good health and my parents lived to 90, and grandfather and his siblings to 93, 96, 98, and 103. Thank you for any advice and information you can give me.


22 posted on 06/24/2015 11:29:50 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: cicero2k

According to the worst 2015 car models to avoid the BMW 7 series has the worst resale value...

And I befriended a certified BMW mechanic in the last few months. He tells me never to buy BMW’s. This straight from a certified Beemer dude. His words, not mine.


23 posted on 06/24/2015 11:47:11 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Polynikes

You changed your O2 sensor at 30K? My codes went up at 90K for my Jeep. One of my first cars was an Xterra but it was back in Canada. That sucker saved my life from a snowbank in a winter storm once.


24 posted on 06/24/2015 11:50:19 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: gleeaikin

Check the Enterprise rent-a-car website, see where their nearest used car lot is; they were recommended to me by my credit union, and I’ve been very happy with the car I purchased there. They sell the cars before the manu warranty runs out, and the buyer gets the balance (and there are extended warranty options). Their used vehicles are (or were then) recommended by, I dunno, Consumer Reports. Some of their locations have more diverse selections, others are Chevy-heavy etc.


25 posted on 06/25/2015 12:40:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: gleeaikin

drive the caravan until it don’t drive no more. If you are thrifty and can keep 10,000 bucks in the bank ready for an emergency I would not bother with a new vehicle until mine is completely dead. For 10k you can get a nice little care to get you another 100,000 miles OR spend a few nights in a town and have your caravan repaired. I am not a “car guy.” To me a car is a tool to get from point A to point B. A 96 caravan isn’t worth much but it’s worth a lot to you if it still works and does what you need. If there’s no problems now there aren’t likely to be any in the future. And those problems will either be typical maintenance or mechanical issues that happen on a car of that ‘vintage.’ I drive my cars until they physically can not be driven any more. Just be prepared with some common sense items in the caravan (water, food, money, phone, blankets) and you’ll be fine. If the caravan ever does break down consider your delay an unplanned vacation while you shop for a new car or have your caravan repaired.

In other words. I think you’re just fine and you’re new guy will just have to deal with it.


26 posted on 06/25/2015 1:02:15 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: patriot08

“What’s the best used car to buy? “

In price versus bang for buck an older used Lincoln or Cadillac. You can get one ten years old with under 20k miles for not much. They’re usually well maintained and garaged. Shop around.


27 posted on 06/25/2015 2:09:39 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: gleeaikin; Organic Panic

I’m with Organic Panic... great advice!


28 posted on 06/25/2015 2:25:04 AM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: nickcarraway

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29 posted on 06/25/2015 2:32:36 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass ("Any girl can be glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid." Hedy Lamarr)
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To: nickcarraway

Dealerships, no matter what the brand, don’t waste their best mechanics on oil changes.

They also know after a while which ones are the screw-ups.

Just sayin’...


30 posted on 06/25/2015 2:44:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: cpdiii

We used to say you buy Yugos by the six pack.


31 posted on 06/25/2015 2:56:10 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: nickcarraway

He likes to start paragraphs with “so.”


32 posted on 06/25/2015 3:09:16 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: Moonman62

First off, the oxygen sensor in no way costs anywhere near $400.

I’ve had three vehicles develop that “check engine” syndrome and it always turned out to be the O2 sensor for the catalytic converter. Two new Hondas and a new F150.

I spent days on the internet and talking to a couple of mechanical engineers about it. It is ethanol in the gas. It is very effective in disabling wideband 02 sensors. Ethanol eats hoses, gaskets, sensors and a host of other problems. I’ve had to be come a carburetor rebuild expert on all my 2 cycle engines because of it.

I finally broke down and bought a CAN/OBD II reader and when the light pops, I read the 02 sensor code and then reset it. It has saved me its cost several times over. BTW, the F150 runs just fine even at 105K miles now.


33 posted on 06/25/2015 3:10:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: max americana

I’ve owned three of them (still have one) and I agree. One of the most costly and difficult repairable lines on the market. Anything a mechanic has to do to a BMW costs a lot of money. On one model you literally have to remove the entire headlight assembly to change a bulb. And that required repositioning the radiator a little to get at the screws holding it in. Just terrible.


34 posted on 06/25/2015 3:15:43 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: gleeaikin

I have a close friend who worked at a dealership, repairing those caravans when they first came out...and it was exactly as you say - some were lemons some lasted forever. I would hang onto it - it doesn’t owe you a thing.

fyi Im driving a 99 Tahoe with 160k....


35 posted on 06/25/2015 3:56:14 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Gaffer
First off, the oxygen sensor in no way costs anywhere near $400.

That price is parts plus labor.

36 posted on 06/25/2015 4:35:47 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Fresh Wind

Understood, but you can buy them online pretty cheap. Even then, they are charging an inflated “manufacturer’s” calculated labor rate for that task.


37 posted on 06/25/2015 4:41:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Salvey

“He likes to start paragraphs with “so.”

You noticed that too. I am hearing a lot of people starting what they say with a “so”. Doesn’t really fit.


38 posted on 06/25/2015 4:57:18 AM PDT by all the best
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To: Moonman62; nickcarraway
"There’s a reason why a Lexus dealer’s repair shop can afford to be generous."

There's also a reason it might agree to cover a failure that happens a couple of miles after the car left the dealership: the service technician caused the problem.

I have four cars that I drive regularly, each over ten years old (17, 17, 16, and 11 years), each with well over 100K miles (180K, 140K, 130K, and 105K miles). That means 16 oxygen sensors. I've had only one of the 16 fail, ever. These are, obviously, unlikely to fail as often as implied. I suspect the dealership caused the problem.

39 posted on 06/25/2015 5:18:39 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Safetgiver

Why does a Yugo have a rear window defroster?

To keep your hands warm as you push.


40 posted on 06/25/2015 5:23:47 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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