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Elections have consequences - we were warned
June 26, 2015 | Self

Posted on 06/26/2015 9:01:50 AM PDT by HonorInPa

This is exactly why, when conservatives sit on the sideline awaiting the 100% pure candidate, we damage ourselves. Election have consequences and this is one - the ability to select Supreme Court Justices who will sit for life. Look at the ages of Obama's picks - 55 and 61. They are not going anywhere for years.

Abortion, gay marriage, assaults upon Christianity... and we dare to sing God Bless America. Why would he bless us when we spit in his eye.


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To: AlanGreenSpam
And furthermore, with your relentless “How many years were you in the military” prompts, you are also using the same illogic that liberals do about abortion.

You mean the one time that I asked you that?

Since you were defending the draft dodging Romney, by claiming that Reagan never served, and then when you were called out on that, switching to denigrating his service, and implying that he was a "Hollywood elite" that dodged combat, as you denigrated military service and veterans if they didn't see combat, well asking if you had ever served, seemed very appropriate.

Of course the answer was, that you haven't served.

By the way, are you also dropping your liars claim that you and Reagan were "friends"?

421 posted on 06/26/2015 4:19:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: humblegunner

No-—I don’t believe in “Blind Faith” like YOU. Anyone who “thinks” they hear “truth” on MSM is completely deluded.

I go to original sources or people who prove over time they don’t lie-—I don’t believe in what the elite controlled MSM Ba’al Worshippers say-—and journalists have TOLD us they are CENSORED all the time and we caught them in Lies ALL the time. That is why I got rid of TV-—when O’R. was forced to say “French Youths” instead of “Muslim Youths”. Omission of Truth is their M.O. to try to force the proper emotions.

I am a Thomist and we don’t believe in ANYTHING unless the EVIDENCE points to it.

Truth has a Ring to it....you know : )


422 posted on 06/26/2015 4:51:11 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
Ted Cruz and Mitt Romney are about as far apart on important key issues as Mondale and Reagan were. Romney is a NE Liberal Elite a silver spoon My Turn Liberal just like Da Bush family.. IF Poppy Bush had been able to contained his thousand points of NWO self and simply followed in and continued the Reagan Legacy many things we see and live under today would probably not have happened. He would have won a large landslide over Clinton. But he only lost his second term because of Perot /sarcasm. George Herbert Walker Bush, and Anthony Kennedy, & Sandra O'Connor were the three greatest and most damaging mistakes Reagan made in eight years.

When GOP runs Liberals in the general election which they have done since 1989 the left squeals in demon delight because their candidate like Clinton did twice will run center to slight right. Bob Dole fought in WW2 but I would not have wanted him as a POTUS. The disgusting 1996 GOP Convention of Freaks was a turning point for me in my straight ticket GOP voting.

Reagan though not a perfect man had wisdom, the ability to appoint a competent qualified cabinet, and a love for GOD and this nations best interest. The last president to understand and more importantly respect the boundaries of what his position was in government was supposed to be and oversaw the Executive Branch accordingly was Reagan.

BTW I think in a real sense the Olichards running this nation for the past 25 plus years have simply drawed straws as to who would be the faux POTUS. Look at what happened. Bob Dole ran such a pathetic campaign he had to try to loose and did. McCain? Can anyone reasonably explain why he did what he did? Anyone remember the Fred Tease which basically derailed any others chances? Romney same thing. Our two party system is a one party oligarchy. We can not continue on this same course. Each election the GOP nominees take the party and nation further and further left as the Dems also move further left. Thus we have Obama. Remember McGovern and Mondale lost because they were Fringe Leftist. Obama is far left of what they were and the GOP has helped bring us to this point in history by not fighting a Conservative Battle. They fight against Liberalism like they are Drag Queen Fags in a Powder Room.

423 posted on 06/26/2015 5:00:41 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: savagesusie
No-—I don’t believe in “Blind Faith” like YOU.

I don't recall having said that I do. (Sorry, I'm not into the "all caps" thing.)

Anyone who “thinks” they hear “truth” on MSM is completely deluded.

I don't recall having mentioned that either. Are you drunk?

I go to original sources or people who prove over time they don’t lie-

Such as?

I don’t believe in what the elite controlled MSM Ba’al Worshippers say

How about when bloggers copy that same stuff and present it to you?
Do you believe it then?

That is why I got rid of TV-

Yes, being ignorant of a thing will bring you to victory over it.

I am a Thomist and we don’t believe in ANYTHING unless the EVIDENCE points to it.

I'm sorry, then, that Biblical faith is admittedly beyond you.

Have fun, be safe.

424 posted on 06/26/2015 5:03:04 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: dragnet2

Plato stated the same——only a few will be able to come out of the Cave.

It is sophisticated psychological warfare-—and the CIA has been in on it, as were the Nazi scientists who were brought here after the war.

Good ole Eddie Bernays (Freud’s nephew) was the leader in the “public relations” business of Mass Psychology which started in spades by 1920s and picked up by Goebbels in the 1930s.

It is much more effective now after WWII and the public school curricula was totally subverted for emotion embedding.......for the Mind control with no chains——”happy slavery” that Fichte outlined in 1810 where Free Will is obliterated-—all critical thinking skills Kaput. The artificial screens are also great at programming emotions to concepts-—along with music....great little system set up for mass conformity and elimination of Identity/Individualism and Autonomy. They become pawns of the Mass Media, little Collective Kids, which is all controlled by just a few Lucifereans.


425 posted on 06/26/2015 5:09:01 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Before the Nazi scientist arrived here the Marxist that Hitler expelled came here & were welcomed by Columbia University. Some scientist in Germany under Hitler weren’t Nazi and sabotaged Hitlers nuke program.


426 posted on 06/26/2015 5:23:08 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: savagesusie

You seem like an intelligent person. Great comments!

Btw, I love your moniker susie.


427 posted on 06/26/2015 6:05:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ansel12

Not at all.

There is a very simple, undiluted question here.

Some people here claim their decision to either vote for Obama or not vote for anyone/Romney was driven by a document showing Obama was the more conservative candidate, specifically more conservative the Romney.

Yes, as strange as it sounds, it supposedly exists, and drove many to vote as they did.

I’s simply asking, if such a list exists, as many claim it does and it was the basis of their voting decision, could someone please direct me to that specific document?

This is very important, since it affected so many votes.

Does it exist, or is is a very bad “urban myth?”

Please let me know if you know where to find it.

Thank you.


428 posted on 06/26/2015 6:07:50 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: humblegunner

Watching TV makes you stupid....LOL-—it also causes Alzheimers. They did studies on minds that sat in front of TVs. It virtually shuts down the intellectual part of the brain, and controls the Limbic area (primitive part).

The more hours children sit in front of the TV, the dumber they are.

TV destroys cognitive thinking and the ability to reflect and focus and forces your brain into a tight box of conformity.

I READ which is known to be the basis of all intellectual genius. And all the Great Books, including the Bible. You should try it sometime.

Read Machiavelli so you can understand the Nature of Power-—and read the Bible-—to understand the Nature of Man and top it off with Solzhenitsyn’s “Gulag” and Jones, Libido Dominadi. It could expand your brain power and give you a little perspective on Reality.

As Socrates stated: “Employ your time in improving yourself by other men’s writings so that you shall come easily by what others have labored hard for”.


429 posted on 06/26/2015 6:09:48 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Crystal Palace East

You aren’t the most honest poster are you, as you try to rewrite our exchange?

My post was simply “”I don’t know the list, but there are areas in which Romney was to the left of democrats like Ted Kennedy and Obama and Hillary Clinton, and Bill Clinton, and Al Gore, etc, and it took years for them to catch up to him on.””

Then for some weird reason you brought in Reagan, where I then posted to you.

To: Crystal Palace East
I know that Reagan voted for FDR and then Truman in 1948 as a democrat, but that was the last time that he voted for a democrat president, Reagan campaigned for Ike in 1952 and 1956, and then for Nixon in 1960, but what does that have to do with Romney?

Did you bring him up because Romney left the GOP because of Reagan, and eventually became a democrat donor, fund raiser, and voter, and not reregistering republican until October of 1993 to run as a pro-abortion, pro-gays in the military, pro-gay Scout leaders, anti-gun candidate for Senator, who said that Ted Kennedy was too conservative on gay issues?

415 posted on 6/26/2015, 3:59:50 PM by ansel12


430 posted on 06/26/2015 6:12:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: ansel12

A great trivia question:

Clark Gable was a major in the USAAF in WWII. He saw combat as an aerial gunner on B-17s in Europe.

The question: Who signed his AAF discharge papers?

Answer: Army Captain Ronald W. Reagan!


431 posted on 06/26/2015 6:15:01 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: dragnet2

I like my moniker, too.....but by looking at me it is very deceptive. The “Susie” fits perfectly, though.

I figure since Machiavelli stated that Truth is more hated than Lies——and I am only going to promote the truth, as I see it——I will end up being hated and sounding “savage”. So I haven’t changed it......I do cause a lot of anger (cognitive dissonance) whenever I state the truth. LOL It is quite fun.

I find it so interesting reading history and finding out ALL the people who got exiled or killed for simply stating the “truth” like Socrates and Jesus.. Machiavelli was even exiled. Look at McCarthy......his name was even ruined for telling the truth. Diana West and Stanton Evan give the truth about his demonization and lies by the press and how the media and communists on the committees destroyed him.

The Press is the most dangerous fascist institution ever-—worse than our legal system which is almost entirely corrupted. It is a Vice System.


432 posted on 06/26/2015 6:30:21 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Norm Lenhart

And who decides which conservatives are not real conservatives and therefore their votes did not split the vote? You? Do both Santorum and Newt count as real conservatives or not?


433 posted on 06/26/2015 6:31:15 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: TexasFreeper2009
A RINO would have just nominated a liberal judge anyway!!!!

George H.W. Bush gave us David Souter.

George W. Bush gave us John Roberts.

Conclusion: Your post was SPOT ON!

434 posted on 06/26/2015 6:33:38 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Yosemitest
But now, it's going to move to the cartridge box, and soon !

Thus my tagline (which hasn't changed since 2006.)

435 posted on 06/26/2015 6:34:30 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: savagesusie

The Press? One of they’re big goals for control is the Internet. And they’re working hard on even bigger objectives.

Thanks susie!


436 posted on 06/26/2015 6:52:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ansel12

Please accept my apology for any misunderstanding.

I was speaking to the issue of the general validity foundation of a current argument exposed by some on FR; that it was ‘smart” for conservatives to vote for Obama or not vote at all, because Obama supposedly was more conservative than Gov. Romney.

This is supposedly backed up by a document allegedly offering proof of Obama’s superior conservatism.

Since so many apparently depended on this “document,” I’m simply asking if anyone knows where it can be found.

At this points, this supposed proving document seems about as accessible as Obama’s birth certificate,

Again, I was not putting the question to you specifically, but rather just generally asking the question about the documents existence.

I sincerely apologize if my question seemed to be negatively directed to you.

Have a good weekend.


437 posted on 06/26/2015 6:56:35 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: KC_Lion; wagglebee; Tennessee Nana; SoConPubbie; Norm Lenhart; wmfights; Signalman

Here is a very simple, polite, undiluted question.

Some people here claim their decision to either vote for Obama or not vote for anyone/Romney was driven by a document showing Obama was the more conservative candidate in the 2012 Presidential General Election, specifically more conservative the Romney.

As strange as it sounds, it supposedly exists, and drove many to vote as they did. One Freeper claims “Tennessee Nana and SoConPubbie have those lists ready.”

I’s simply asking, if such a list exists, as many claim it does and it was the basis of their voting decision, could someone please direct me to that specific document and provide a copy of it?

This is very important, since it affected so many votes, and the issue may play out again in 2016.

Does it exist, or is is a very bad “urban myth?”

Please let me know if you know where to find it and/or please supply it..

Your help is appreciated.

Thank you.


438 posted on 06/26/2015 7:02:45 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: Crystal Palace East

For a guy who claims to be so interested in knowing how liberal Romney is, and was, and who keeps repeating himself over and over and over, you sure don’t seem interested in what you learned in posts 415 and 430.


439 posted on 06/26/2015 7:03:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: ansel12

I’m simply asking if this all important document actually exists.

It’s that simple.

Why are you so determined not to answer the question and provide a copy of it?


440 posted on 06/26/2015 7:20:27 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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