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The biggest thing wrong with the whole picture is a guy running for President actually coming out and bluntly telling the truth. There has to be a catch.
1 posted on 07/23/2015 4:45:30 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The GOPee is working to accomplish the same split.


2 posted on 07/23/2015 4:48:55 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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Said this when he first started this thing he calls a Presidential Campaign.

Trump in many ways is the world’s best salesman...I am just not so sure what he is ‘selling’ the American people and conservative base is going to turn out to be what we really want or need.

I still contend very much he is a Hillary troll and all of this is designed to split the party. Rush Limbaugh pulled a real stinker on Hillary in 2008...you know what they say about ‘pay back.’


3 posted on 07/23/2015 4:52:38 AM PDT by EBH
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So, according to you, Donald Trump got into the race with the intention of hitting it out of the park by POORLY stating conservative principles... and somehow he knew that this would work to split the conservative base...?

Really.

That’s what happened?

How in the *world* could *anyone* have predicted that Trump’s inflammatory remarks would work out in his favor? How could any of this be intentional?

Heck, he’s as surprised as anyone that the immigration thing took off like it did.


4 posted on 07/23/2015 4:54:49 AM PDT by Marie
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Truth has no catch, IT IS THE TRUTH!

The TRUTH is alive and does it’s own work.

It cuts like a two edged Sword. Trump is using the Truth to fight, it works like a charm and has noting to do with Trump. Truth is alive and it is the Spirit of truth that is awakening hearts.

But, I thought you knew that.


5 posted on 07/23/2015 4:55:09 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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I always ponder why so many candidates on the Republican side. Looks like they are trying to split the votes away from Cruz who is truly a real conservative among all of them. I guess we shall wait and see.

As for Donald, again we shall wait and see. However, he is the only one shouting out what needs to be said and mentioned. No one else is. Knowing liberals anything is possible regarding their tactics.


6 posted on 07/23/2015 4:55:17 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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It is beginning to look like the powers behind the scenes knew Cruz was going to be a problem and might actually thwart their evil plans and so needed something, ANYTHING, that would take the attention away from him.

Interesting theory. In support of it: Trump is certainly hurting Cruz badly. OTOH, if Trump drops out Cruz should soar. But somehow I just don't see Trump leaving the scene very soon. He enjoys the spotlight too much.

7 posted on 07/23/2015 4:55:44 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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I’d certainly believe he is forcing further division in the electorate with respect to conservatives and establishment Republicans and those disposed to believe the lies of RINOs.

I fail to see exactly how Trump’s one-issue pony wins the race for conservatives across the board especially when he has to face conservatives on a range of additional issues.

To think that Cruz would do anything but accept and tacitly endorse some of the Trumpisms on illegal aliens doesn’t make sense to me. Accept that debate point, don’t dispute and move on to more wheat/chaff in the slate of what conservatism is about, too.

For others on that debate stage? It is a place where Jeb’s surrender of our sovereignty and establishment Republican lying can be showcased. The same with some of the other fence sitters on the slate, too.

I don’t expect Trump to ever win, nor would want him to, but to me he performs a very valuable function right now. Especially if it is something that damages Jeb Bush’s chances.


8 posted on 07/23/2015 4:56:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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NOT CONSERVATIVE?

http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

He is ALOT more Conservative than most CONSERVATIVES running for Office!


10 posted on 07/23/2015 4:57:02 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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The Leftist News Media — have pushed Cruz out of the spotlight before Trump started his noisy rise. Trump had little to do with it... Trump has even had a personal meeting with Cruz just recently.

The Elitist RINO so called leadership ... McConnell, Boehner, McCain, ad naseum were marginalizing all Real Conservatives way before Trump started getting attention.

Surely you are not talking about a split between Conservatives as being a split between Principled Constitutional Conservatives (which includes the Tea Party Groups) and the GOP Leadership ? Because if you are the GOP/RNC/U.S. Chamber of Commerce are not even close to be Conservative — so who is splitting? Do you mean the Conservative McCain defenders and the Trump fans? Many millions of Conservatives are NOT fans of John McCain (who is the biggest leader of the HATE the Tea Party — Hate Conservatives ...

You must read different news sources than I do ... and have different definitions as to what is Conservative ...


16 posted on 07/23/2015 5:02:17 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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GIVE ME A BREAK! Are you THAT BLIND???

Cruz and Trump are working TOGETHER!

DO YOUR HOMEWORK! RESEARCH!


20 posted on 07/23/2015 5:05:11 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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Or maybe Trump is just as sick of the way things are going in this country like a lot of the population, time will tell.


21 posted on 07/23/2015 5:06:01 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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I wonder if Trump will get a lot more Latino support than the current PTB are claiming he’ll get. Surely Latino’s see the problems around them caused by illegal criminals. Where do the illegals with criminal backgrounds go? Isn’t it into Latino neighborhoods?


27 posted on 07/23/2015 5:08:09 AM PDT by MulberryDraw
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It is beginning to look like he is trying to divide the conservative electorate.

Or that he's the only one with balls.

28 posted on 07/23/2015 5:08:37 AM PDT by papertyger (If the government doesn't obey the Constitution, what is treason?)
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Ah, geeze. The only catch is that if Mr. Trump didn’t jump in; we’d have the same go along to get along primary process with the uniparty (establishment GOPe & Marxist Globalists) manipulating, influencing candidates & public with their money & media picking the candidate. Mr. Trump isn’t owned by the uniparty. We need to rally around him.


29 posted on 07/23/2015 5:09:39 AM PDT by Lopeover (My vote is valuable, you must earn it.)
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Donald Trump was blessed with a strong, free, civilized country to grow up in.

He earned his fortune in a country that respected the Constitution and the rule of law.

He also sees that we’re a stones throw away from losing it all to some kind of theocratic communist takeover, that anyone with the power to stop it gives only token resistance.

My guess is that he can’t stand the thought of seeing his kids and grandkids grow up in that kind of America.

And, incidentally, a whole lot of other American Dads can’t stand that thought either.


30 posted on 07/23/2015 5:09:57 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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We’ve bee had by the RNC the last two election. Why put up with it again?


31 posted on 07/23/2015 5:10:38 AM PDT by McGruff (Eat a snickers...)
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This is actually a very interesting cycle. The race was supposed to be Bush vs Clinton. The elites on both sides had the who thing planned out.

Now Sanders to blasting Hillary’s base out from under her, and Trump is doing what Jeb can never do, selling himself to the people.

The two ruling houses actually have to fight for the nomination, and they do not like it. Get prepared for vote fraud in the primaries and the caucuses.


34 posted on 07/23/2015 5:13:46 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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It is beginning to look like he is trying to divide the conservative electorate.

The feckless GOP has been doing that for years. Power and leadership seeks a populist vacuum.

35 posted on 07/23/2015 5:13:53 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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its a rat ploy.....we all know it....and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it....

perot/buchannon etc redux.....

oh and third party.....

I wish people would wake up...including Rush, including freepers....but then again we had freepers vote bammy in again.....so what good is it to even warn people...

37 posted on 07/23/2015 5:15:02 AM PDT by cherry
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Maybe Trump is a stalking horse for Cruz. He’s saying the same thing Cruz is but he’s in the spotlight taking the flak which he can more than handle.


38 posted on 07/23/2015 5:15:05 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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