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About those child opera singers: here's the deal
http://dropera.blogspot.com/ ^ | 2/2/2012 | Glenn Winters

Posted on 08/12/2015 9:41:16 AM PDT by Borges

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To: dfwgator

Charlotte Church turned into a fat slut who doesn’t heed her mother.


61 posted on 08/12/2015 10:46:44 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan ('Zionists crept into my home and stole my shoe' - Headline)
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To: T-Bone Texan

She was an ‘opera singer’ like Sarah Brightman.


62 posted on 08/12/2015 10:48:00 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Did you get that crap about Mendelssohn from the clown who wrote this article?

Many of the greatest musicians in history would be interested to learn that Mendelssohn's 'Italian' Symphony, his Trio in D minor for piano and strings, his Octet, his Variations Seriouses, his Songs Without Words, his On Wings of Song, his Rondo Capriccioso etc

are not worthy of music 'expert' Borges tastes.

63 posted on 08/12/2015 10:48:03 AM PDT by MarvinStinson (Mendelssohn Rondo Capriccioso)
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To: MarvinStinson

I like them just fine. The fact still remains that the two pieces I mentioned are his two most highly regarded.


64 posted on 08/12/2015 10:49:35 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Beethoven admired Clementi's Piano Sonatas.

You don't know a note of them.

65 posted on 08/12/2015 10:50:27 AM PDT by MarvinStinson (Mendelssohn Rondo Capriccioso)
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To: Borges

Yes


66 posted on 08/12/2015 10:50:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: MarvinStinson

Sure I do. Horowitz’s recording of them is wonderful. Beethoven also mocked them with the first movement of the 25th sonata. And a lot of great composers admired other composers who weren’t that great or important in retrospect. Beethoven also admired Cherubini. Schumann loved William Sterndale Bennett.


67 posted on 08/12/2015 10:53:11 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Most of it.

firstly, there is a distinction between a performer and a prodigy. Yes, most of Mozart’s pre Vienna music is not up the his last stuff, but who knows how good a performer he was as a kid?

Secondly, just sour grapes; I’m sure the author is a fine musician, probably much better than this old R&B/Rock/Prog whore is or ever will be, but it reeks of envy.

Thirdly, without accurate quantification there is no evidence to back much of it up- few musicians stay at the top for long regardless of the age when they first start to gain notice and professional acclaim. There is a difference between not caring for Lang Lang and not acknowledging that he fills the seats wherever he goes- the first is merely opinion, and like rectum’s everyone has one and they usually stink, the second is a fact and I really doubt that the author of this article headlines wherever they go. For me, I simply do not criticize or care about those who do musicians of ANY genre who can make a living in this ‘long plastic shallow money trench...”

I could go on, but I’ve got to get back to my day job; I might gig 5-10 times a month (playing ATP) but that does not pay the bills.
:-)


68 posted on 08/12/2015 10:53:12 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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Well he names Sgouras for one. Who was a huge name in the 80s. Again he isn’t criticizing the idea of child prodigies but how they are treated and developed.


69 posted on 08/12/2015 10:55:30 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Well, I don’t know much about opera, but I do remember the tremendous voice of Andrea McArdle in the Broadway show “Annie” as the original Annie.

She never really turned into anything, having to finally play Miss Hannigan in a revival decades later.


70 posted on 08/12/2015 10:57:06 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Borges

I knew a guy who wrote a magnificent 5 movement symphony when only 2 years old and later became the best plumber in 5 counties!


71 posted on 08/12/2015 10:57:31 AM PDT by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: Dr. Sivana

She’s a successful musical theater and cabaret performer. Which is what she wanted to be.


72 posted on 08/12/2015 10:57:46 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Child prodigy’s are a tricky road to maneuver throughout the changes which occur in their age development....not just how their specific talent “matures” but as they do themselves. What talent distinguishes them when young may very well not develop as anticipated. Which is why they are “featured” while young.

Parental controls on when and where, how often etc. are critical to preventing “burn out”. Some “agents” will ‘milk it’ early and thus burn them out quickly. So parental involvement is critical IMO.


73 posted on 08/12/2015 10:59:47 AM PDT by caww
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To: Borges
A lot of the ‘tricks’ his father had him perform could be done by any musically gifted child.

More cluelesness.

Mozart was sent by his father when he was a young child to Padre Martini to study Fux' Gradus ad Parnassum (the classic study of strict counterpoint which forms the basis of all classical composition). Bach praised Fux' Gradus, Haydn studied it repeatedly over a period of YEARS, Beethoven studied it with Haydn and Albrechtsburger and kept his notebooks on it to the end of his life, Brahms used it.

No one absorbed it as young as Mozart did.

When Mozart was in his early teens he wrote the best canons ever written--and lots of them.

His mastery of counterpoint was phenomenal at that age.

Only the clueless with a complete ignorance of what counterpoint is would write

A lot of the ‘tricks’ his father had him perform could be done by any musically gifted child.

74 posted on 08/12/2015 11:02:02 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Drawsing

But was he a good tap dancer?


75 posted on 08/12/2015 11:03:39 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

I’m well aware that he was as natural a musician as has ever been.

I was talking about the tricks he did for royalty...playing piano with a the keyboard covered with a blanket. Playing stuff backwards, sight reading, naming notes due to absolute pitch.


76 posted on 08/12/2015 11:04:12 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Terrific piece.

Yes it certainly is. Very informative. Thanks for posting it. :)

77 posted on 08/12/2015 11:05:57 AM PDT by EveningStar (Donald Trump is a pretender. Ted Cruz is the real thing.)
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To: Borges
Beethoven also admired Cherubini.

You don't know a note Cherubini wrote.

Every new post you make outs you further.

78 posted on 08/12/2015 11:06:05 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

I’ve heard Médée. It’s less than scintillating.


79 posted on 08/12/2015 11:07:54 AM PDT by Borges
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To: MarvinStinson

But keep up with the baseless personal attacks. You’re bound to hit something substantial with one of them at some point.


80 posted on 08/12/2015 11:10:10 AM PDT by Borges
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