Posted on 09/23/2015 7:04:47 AM PDT by VaRepublican
Looking for fellow FReepers opinions about statins. I told doc I do not want a script. However how effective are fish/krill oils? what about cetia?. Of course I understand about diet but I have not started a new diet yet. Go ahead and go to town on this one, please.
My wife complains about the burping from fish oil. I take lots of it and have never had that problem.
Use a peeler on zucchini make spaghetti like strips...steam it...toss with lots of organic butter and spices...even a little real parmesan. You will lose your cravings for carbs if you eat enough fat and protein...veggies with lots of organic butter works too.
Ive taken Pravachol for 25 years with no bad side effects I can tell or my blood works show
It keeps my lipids in great shape relatively speaking
I know folks who can’t tolerate them and I’m sure some here hate them but for most folks they help and are a major contribution reason folks are living longer
In the top five for men
> So what you’re saying is to get up off my a$$ and get busy
> and change my diet...... so depressing...
No need to really change your diet, except for this one rule: All things in moderation. :)
Kick the statins and the niacin. Take the fish oil. Drink a lot of water and take magnesium and potassium for the leg cramps- the water drinking is the most effective. I carry half a gallon of water (actually mixed up with ginger and turmeric- I can’t force myself to drink unadulterated water unless I have been sweating a lot) to work and try to finish it two hours before I get off because I go straight to bed when I get home at 2200 hours. I would rather get up once or twice at night to go to the bathroom than once or twice with my toes all tied in knots or my thighs all kinked up. That takes 15 minutes to an hour to walk off. Drinking pickle juice or vinegar often but not always kills the cramps after a few minutes.
I took statins for several years, for a cholesterol situation that was not very high at all - but the doc insisted.
After a few years, my legs had lost a lot of muscle and were very weak. I went from easily mounting the tallest horse in the barn, to having trouble with a short staircase.
I talked to the pharmacist, and he told me that muscle weakness was one of the most-reported side effects. So I stopped the pills. Three months later, I felt like a new person, and when I saw my doc again and told him all this, he apparently decided I had done correctly, because he never pushed the statin again.
I don’t know if these side-effects are universal; and my experience is my own, and not ‘scientific’; but I’m convinced those pills were bad for me personally.
More anecdote: I know a man who shocked his doctor by drastically lowering his cholesterol by eating oatmeal every morning for a few months.
-JT, (not a dr., in life or on TV.)
This elder has not “gone before” you yet.
I’m 5’11” and currently about 245. I’m not a doughboy but my gut is getting bigger. I need to “get in shape”, really. but what about diet. I love to cook and eat. So there it is 5’11” and 245lbs. I am not fat but I am overweight. I accept that this is my fault. I do not want to take statins but I would like to live a few more years. So of course I have done my research but this post is put out to ya’ll to see what you folks have done.
I have seen the results of taking statins and it is really impressive. I don’t have any of the associated problems with them, probably because I am taking a lower dose.
The key is to take control of your medication. Doctors start high because starting low might get them sued if anything goes wrong.
I have noticed that my mother’s generation will not disagree with doctors. I guess I’m in the “Why?” generation.
Resistance training and lots of sunshine or, if your schedule does not permit the sunshine, D3 supplements; D3 through the winter when the sun is blocked by clothing. The sunshine prescription is also the only actually effective treatment for depression. I have seen complete turnarounds in three people who are close to me with the D3 and getting out of their caves in the daytime one of whom had been diagnosed bi-polar. I found out this effect of vitamin D as a side effect of getting the first one of the three who was way manic depressive to take the D3 because she got a virus every time someone else in town had one. She has since got off her antidepressants altogether, gets NO viruses and her wild mood swings are all gone.
Get off the pasta. Carbs from white flour will kill you.
Awwwwwww jees I love pasta, any other options?
I'm no expert, but tend to agree from bad experience. Took one for short period. Made me sick and gave me with a large sack of water on my elbow. Started with a cholesterol over 200. Quit the statin and added oatmeal for breakfast and dropped to 150-ish. I'm in my 70s and thin.
I’m offering my experience and opinion.
My docs have tried at least three times putting me on statins.
I tried to have an open mind when switching and trying again but no matter whait I took I would get the same muscle weakness and fatigue that made me feel 80 years old.
When I feel good and eat right I can run circles around everyone I know including my teenagers.
So I flat refuse to take them anymore.
I believe this too much cholesterol stuff is a bunch of hooey designed to sell overpriced pills that make you have to take more overpriced pills to counter the side effects.
The docs push exercise. Hard work around the house and garden and exercise is good. But who can do that when they’re hobbling around from side effects? I was very inactive when I was on statins because my body just couldn’t do it.
Also, there are certain medical conditions that cause high cholesterol. Hypothyroidism can cause high cholesterol. I think Cushings and liver disease can do it too.
I believe some people are genetically wired to make more cholesterol. Who knows? Maybe some people actually need more cholesterol. It is a building block for hormones. Everyone is different so maybe it’s not such a tragedy to have high cholesterol.
I decided I was better off moving around more and eating better than struggling to get around on statins.
I don’t believe we know enough about cholesterol or cholesterol meds yet to insist that everyone who is out of range needs to be on these meds.
No...but goats are smart...they also like milk thistle heads and burdock roots.
Try pasta made from Quinoa.
Try a plant based ,whole food diet first. I recommend the Engine 2 diet and/or Forks Over Knives. Eat to Live by Dr. Joel Furhman is also great. Meds probably won’t be necessary.
You couldn’t pay me to take statins. I think the side effects are outrageously dangerous and I say that as an RN. Garbonzo beans are one of the best beans for lowering cholesterol and make a nice snack as hummus with veggies. Oatmeal is also stellar, but otherwise low carb as much as possible. Your body needs good fats. Food grade diatomaceous earth is also implicated in being good for cleaning out your arteries, and has numerous benefits. Thanks to modern farming, we don’t get enough of it naturally. I make a high protein shake for breakfast and throw in about a 1/2 tablespoon. It has no taste, is a very fine powder but doesn’t really dissolve, so putting it in yogurt, a shake or something with substance works better than just juice or water unless you don’t mind a little grittiness. I highly recommend googling the health benefits of it, as well as the health benefits of coconut oil. The book Eat Fat to Lose Fat by Dr. Mary Enig, a biochemist, nutritionist and researcher who exposed transfats in the 1970s is an outstanding read and should be available in your library or through inter library loan. It’s an eye opener and I very highly recommend it. It’s not just another diet book as I expected and I couldn’t put it down. She went up again big agra and exposes what happened, as well as outlines the best fats to include and at what ratios in your diet. Best of luck with your cholesterol.
i was taking zocar and asked the doctor for alternatives.
I tried niacin. I tried vitamin d3. the numbers didn’t go down like they did with statins.
I’m back to a statin
Spaghetti Squash.
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