Posted on 10/19/2015 3:04:57 PM PDT by JimSEA
UCLA geochemists have found evidence that life likely existed on Earth at least 4.1 billion years ago -- 300 million years earlier than previous research suggested. The discovery indicates that life may have begun shortly after the planet formed 4.54 billion years ago.
The graphite is older than the zircon containing it, the researchers said. They know the zircon is 4.1 billion years old, based on its ratio of uranium to lead; they don't know how much older the graphite is.The carbon contained in the zircon has a characteristic signature -- a specific ratio of carbon-12 to carbon-13 -- that indicates the presence of photosynthetic life.
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“I have yet to see a single form of life created in a jar from just raw materials.”
I know you are a god skeptic, but I still like the following.
So the scientist bets God that he can create life the same as God did. God agrees.
The scientist grabs a handful of dirt....
“HEY! Get your own dirt!” God yells at him.
I didn’t realize that the time frame of “life on earth” was so close to the origin time. That is interesting.
The nucleus is positive ...
The swirling electrons are negative ...
THAT means ....
But it doesn't !
THE FINGER OF GOD !!
A line those probabilities up serially. That is, one event has to happen first before a second event can happen, then a third, fourth, and so on.
No such luck.
SMALLPOX! from scratch, given the published gene sequence, and the raw nucleic and amino acids for the published protein coat.
SMALLPOX!!!
That’s when everything came from nothing. You have to love evolutionary nonsense. Everything comes from nothing and the nothing which gave us something made more complex things and those things became proteins and since it is like 1 to the 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance that a protein could create itself, it then programmed itself to become even more complex systems like molecules and RNA and DNA and well you get the idea. Given enough time everything can come from nothing. This leaves us with the hope that even those that believe in evolution- given enough billion years might evolve into a more complex being therefore placing one more step between them and the apes they think are their ancestors.
I on the other hand, am formed in the image of the Creator and His Son. It’s good to know who your father is.
Zircon?
Did they find the bones of a guy trying to pass zircon off as a diamond? Those things have been getting guys killed for centuries.
That just goes back to THIS iteration of life.
‘Just remember, there are some 10^57 atoms (higher-weight nuclei) in just our solar system alone. And every one of them had to be created, transformed inside stars, and re-ejected multiple times in just the right sequence to get re-absorbed in the next star-supernova. Then travel drifting through space just in time to get trapped into out gravitation fields to become planets, continents, plants and rocks. .”
When I talk to kids in the desert about these things, I mention that there are 400 billion (plus or minus 50), stars in this galaxy...and the best of our telescopes have discovered at least 400 billion galaxies (that we can see).
I hear you, and believe me, I spend a hell of a lot of time in the desert thinking about such things. It is funny, when I look at things macroscopically (as in the universe and space), I find the idea of a God having creating it just too far out to really believe (ie the so large and so complex that therefore something more large and more complex must have created it, seems to me a huge fallacy).
On the other hand, when I really look into the microscopic, and at the diversity and complexity of life, and how many billions of tiny processes must happen for each organism to live, thrive, and just exist, and how atoms can combine to create cognizance and thought, and awareness, and how these chemical reactions seem to be self sustaining, and replicating, and show symmetry and structural beauty that simply self assembles, I think that to think it just happened on its own is the height of ridiculousness. It is an interesting juxtaposition. The fact that we can not just put carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, and other stuff in a jar, or even cheat and put amino acids and other complex carbon chains in a jar and zap it with electricity a few times, and create self sustaining chemical reactions that replicate speaks to me in volumes.
I’ve got the original fossils of those clusters at home.
There’s a punchline in there somewhere.
I hear Carl Sagan is laughing in his grave billions and billions of times over!
But there are only 118 elements and their isotopes. There is a billions and billions of random chances fallacy that is quite popular with speakers opposed to evolution:
If you take a physical change between species, say a fin in one species which becomes a leg and foot in a descendent species, also let’s say there would have to be 25 inheritable changes in genes or their expression and they must occur in sequential order (1 followed by 2 followed by 3 and so on up to 25). How do you get there?
One of the major creationists illustrated it by numbering 25 wood blocks from one to 25 and put them in a box, shook the box and threw the blocks out onto the ground. Of course they came out in a random order. He then asked the audience how many times they would have to do that to get then to come out in order in one throw. Of course the odds of that happening are incredibly tiny though remotely possible.
The creationist conveniently left off natural selection. With natural selection governing the throwing of the blocks this is what would happen. You would throw the blocks until the block labeled #1 came out first. Then you would take that block out as having been selected. You would repeat the process until #2 block came out first and you would remove it as being selected and you would continue this process until the box was empty and the change complete. It would take you twenty minutes to an hour.
The universe and the chemical and physical laws limit the randomness of what happens so while certain processes may be random and there are many possibilities it isn’t a truly random process.
Pretty soon scientists will be stating that life began very shortly after it was created- say, maybe the third day after?
Worst environmental disaster ever.
What gets me is how tough plant life is and how hard it is to grow a decent garden!
What criteria is number 1 selected based on? We know that the end result is 1 to 10. But how does number 1 know that the end result is supposed to be 1 to 10?
Number 1 doesn’t know. It is selected for its own beneficial impact on the organism as are all the rest. In the example, perhaps #1 allowed the fin to better support the fish as it lay on the bottom of the shallow sea.
Congratulations. That is just about the most dishonest description of evolutionary theory I’ve ever seen.
I’ve heard of zircon encrusted tweezers, but not zircon encrusted graphite.
Please, graphite contained within zircon.
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