Posted on 10/22/2015 9:53:06 AM PDT by dayglored
Of course we had to pit the Surface Book vs. the MacBook Pro. It’s like Ford vs. Chevy, or Coke vs. Pepsi. Each side has its diehard fans, plus others who just want to know which is better.
Microsoft claims its new Surface Book is “twice” as fast as its equivalent MacBook Pro. Well, we ran some benchmarks, and hate to say it, but Microsoft lied. The Surface Book isn’t twice as fast.
It’s three times as fast. Read on for the details.
What Microsoft meant
First, let’s clarify what Microsoft meant when it said the Surface Book would smoke the MacBook Pro. The company specifically means the MacBook Pro 13 inch model. That’s a very important distinction, because the MacBook Pro 15 is a different class of laptop. It’s larger, heavier, and packs a quad-core CPU and fairly beefy AMD discrete graphics. For Microsoft to say the Surface Book out performed the MacBook Pro 15 would be absurd. It would be like Apple saying the MacBook Pro 15 outperforms, oh, an MSI GT 80 Titan SLI laptop in gaming. So the target for the Surface Book is the MacBook Pro 13. Microsoft even compares the two directly in its reviewers guide.
How I tested
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(Lots and lots of detail at the source...)
(Excerpt) Read more at pcworld.com ...
What’s wrong with what I said, we always call liberals retards?
Here’s the thing. No one will really care. I was a PC guy way back when for a LONG time and it’s all about the OS. Speed really doesn’t matter quite like it used to unless you are a gamer (I am not) or into video production (again, not me),
Once you switch to Mac, and you like it, there is no way you’ll switch operating systems. Interestingly, PCs and Mac are a tru apples and oranges comparison. You are going to like one or the other and stick with it. The proof is in the iPhone. It is not the fastest, nor arguably the “best” phone on the market ... but people really don’t switch.
It’s going to take a better wheel to create any significant change in market share.
Someone is still partying like it's 1999... LOL!
Seriously, now. I've got a half-dozen Win 7 boxes (a few on metal, the rest VMs) at home. None have ever BSOD'ed.
These days you have to try pretty damn hard, or do something really stupid, to BSOD.
No, it means they don’t have to learn how electricity is brought from the dam, to the power plant, through the lines, to the transformers (with formulas and graphs) to the street, to the house, to the wall, to the light switch.
Apple users just turn on the light switch and go from there.
If something isn’t simple enough, they go to the Apple Store and sign on for an hour of “free” genius bar time.
Have you gone to an Apple Store lately? About tens times the people than in a Microsoft store (techies, mainly).
Sorry, the phrase still applies as it always has — IJW — ”it just works.”
We can agree that Liberals are, in general, retards.
But no way are Apple users all Liberals. You've got plenty of counterexamples on this forum.
Shoot, I still struggle with irq dip switch settings on my turbo 86286.
;>)
Waiting for final RC for Win95 before I switchover from beta
“regular daily system updates, virus scans, driver updates, malware scans”
Why do the people that know the least about PCs seem to be the ones that love to yell the loudest about how they think they operate?
“Why do the people that know the least about PCs seem to be the ones that love to yell the loudest about how they think they operate?
I bear in my body and psyche the scars of Microsoft slavery for mor than 13 years. I know that experience.
I didn’t “yell”
I asked.
“Apple users just turn on the light switch and go from there.
If something isn’t simple enough, they go to the Apple Store and sign on for an hour of “free” genius bar time.”
In essence, it’s the same as a female that revels in all of the comforts of the western world, without any idea how it is kept running, but becomes a radical feminist and bashes the more competent men that have the technical skills and physical utility to keep it all going.
And if that superior piece of Apple equipment the “just works”....doesn’t work, then they can go make an appointment with a competent person to get it fixed.
“Flame Warriors” is priceless!
Let's revisit this thread six years from now to see how these Surface Books are holding up.
Just had to remove malware from macbook yesterday. (at work)
Mac’s do constant updates just like windows
Malwarebytes is a common install on macs
so aside from Steve Jobs Kool Aid what was your point ?
Well, people who only use one type of computer/OS tend to have a striking lack of knowledge and perspective about the others.
I use EVERY major OS -- Windows, OS X, Ubuntu, CentOS, BSD Unix -- EVERY DAY at work and at home.
I can tell you with authority that anyone who doesn't use a given OS daily has no idea what they're talking about when it comes to that OS. You have to use them regularly to really know them. Period.
And my own opinion is that they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I love 'em all, and I hate 'em all, depending on what I'm trying to do on 'em. I try to choose the one that best suits the task at hand.
Apple is slipping back into it’s me-too hardware niche position. That’s why Apple is pushing this big brother, services approach.
Have you ever compared Adobe Premiere on a PC with iMovie?
Don’t think so. No-one should have to suffer through that.
Graphic applications — Apple has always been light-years ahead.
Games — I’ll give you that, you win.
Database programs that require people to hire the “real experts like you” to get through the workday — I’ll give you that too.
Double yawn.
Last time I saw BSOD was an XP box that served as a field data acquisition computer. Read that as “we beat the crap outa that thing ...” BSOD was caused by a bad SIMM.
It is possible for a user to give permission to their computer to install malware. It is easier and common under Windows.
Macs rarely do updates. Certainly not weekly or daily.
Nor viruses.
Nor reinstalling Windows.
Nor constant driver updates.
I only asked if the speed test took these extra msft time drains into account.
“Why can’t we all just get along?”
:-)
We have both a Windows PC and a MacBook Pro. I want to move into iOS / OSX app development, so I am mainly on the Mac now...immersion learning so to speak. I have come to prefer the OSX UI. I also still use Windows and develop on Linux & Windows at work now. Prior to what I do now, I spent 25 years in the UNIX world. My wife is content to stay on Windows, so we will have both for the foreseeable future.
I am looking to upgrade our entry level PC (and she would like to get the mobile experience I have with my MacBook), so I have been looking at the Surface Pro 4 with a docking station to replace the desktop and add mobility...I am very impressed with what I have read so far.
The current desktop will become a Linux box to play with as well.
I heard you have to run Windows 10 and that it’s awful?
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