Dr. Kent Hovind Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

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[US Navy Vet]

Dr. Kent Hovind Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

[Hebrews 11:6]

Well said. I'm an old-earth creationist who knows that we are saved simply by believing in Jesus, not by that plus believing in one or the other of His possible creation methods.

When God begins creating again on the eighth day, once all His believers are in heaven, there will be no more controversies as to how He's doing it, for we'll not only watch but also, I suspect, participate with Him. Indeed, there are no controversies in heaven at all, are there?

[TXnMA]

Like you, I welcome fellowship with all genuine believers -- regardless of their view of Genesis. And, I certainly agree re the timelessness of God.

The folks I have a problem with are the folks who label themselves "Creationists" -- and then act as if anyone with a different interpretation of Genesis is bound for hell.

And, I positively despise the fraudsters who make a profession of "Creationism" -- especially to the point of building for-profit "Creation Museums" and, worse, theme parks to rake in big bucks from honest believers.

But, what I REALLY despise is their making so much of a fuss over "Creation" that the saving message of Jesus' Gospel is ignored.

Hovind places himself in that class of "most despicable"; I doubt he'd willingly stay long at my campfire...

[so_real]

for we'll not only watch but also, I suspect, participate with Him.

I dearly dearly hope that is the case, FRiend. What a playground the Lord has prepared for us!

[Hebrews 11:6]

For that matter, to what extent might our Lord have let His angels participate with Him on this present creation?! I find in myself, and I suppose in everyone, a keen sense of appreciation whenever I create something. I’m made in the image of the Creator, which I take to be suggestive, at the very least, that He’ll encourage that aspect of our nature in our next life. Playground, indeed! One can only pity those who infer that heaven will be boring.

[hsmomx3]

Yes, she is the Ice Queen, afterall.

[cynwoody]

That's a fine idea.

Hillary for Queen of the Penguins!

[MHGinTN]

See post 31 this thread. Have nice day

[MHGinTN]

If someone claiming to be a teacher of the Body of Christ teaches the assertions of a false prophet, is the one then ‘of the false prophet’? Look up the name Rasmussen, named by Hovind in his book against the pre ‘time of Jacob’s trouble’ catching away as the one who inspired Hovind’s false teaching on The Harpadzo. Kent may be a member of the Body of Christ, but he is promoting false teaching, thus attaching himself to a false prophet.

[MHGinTN]

I’m not calling Kent a nut case. To the contrary, he is a man being misled and misleading many.

[betty boop]

The folks I have a problem with are the folks who label themselves "Creationists" -- and then act as if anyone with a different interpretation of Genesis is bound for hell....what I REALLY despise is their making so much of a fuss over "Creation" that the saving message of Jesus' Gospel is ignored.

Indeed. Well said, dear brother in Christ, and I totally agree.

The great peril is that the focus of attention on Genesis loses focus on Jesus Christ. And if we lose Christ, we lose everything....

Plus the doctrines of "Creationism" as propounded by Pastor Hovind, and reified in for-profit "Creation museums" and theme parks (from which the good pastor presumably well enriches himself) reduces Genesis to the status of an idol.

Or so it seems to me, FWIW.

I'm reading a highly thought-provocative book, David Limbaugh's The Emmaus Code, whose main argument is that the Holy Scriptures are all Christ-centered, Old Testament and New. He puts it this way:

The Bible is more than just a collection of moral stories with colorful characters from whose experiences we can learn and grow.... I [discuss] the Bible's unity -- its remarkable cohesiveness despite containing sixty-six books written by some forty authors over 1,500 years in three different languages, various literary styles, and diverse geographical settings. There is unity between the books of each Testament and between the books of the Old Testament and the New. There is unity in their structure, their history, their prophecies, their moral messages, the theological messages they communicate, their revelation of God's unchanging character and divine attributes, and more.

Biblical theologians acknowledge these different types of unity, but apparently no clear consensus has emerged as to what central idea unites the Old and New Testaments. In my view ... the overarching theme of the Bible is crystal clear: from first to last, it is Jesus Christ. Though the Bible comprises many different books with different stories, it is ultimately one story of God's redemptive plan for man, whom He created purposely in His image, for His glory, and for a personal relationship with Himself. The thirty-nine books of the Old Testament are united by a common thread centered on God's promise to redeem mankind, and this thread continues through the New Testament, where that promise is fulfilled.... In fact, salvation is exactly what Paul says is the purpose of the Bible.... Since Jesus accomplishes salvation, He's the theme of the entire Bible.

Understanding the Bible's unity couldn't be more important.... [Y]our experience with God's Word will be greatly enhanced if you understand clearly how the Bible's individual books come together to form one dazzling, integrated work....

In turning Genesis -- one isolated book -- into some kind of Disneyland, how does this help a Christian to walk in the Lord? Being Christian is not ultimately about what one knows, but rather, about how one lives....

I heard a rumor that Pastor Hovind has endorsed Hillary Clinton for president. Do you know whether that is true? If so, good grief!!! How does a Christian pastor, presumably living in and for Christ, in good conscience endorse a moral vacuum like Hillary???

Methinks this dude is totally weird.

Thanks for writing, dear brother TXnMA!

[trisham]

Interesting post, betty boop! Thanks for the ping!

[so_real]

To clarify, Hovind endorsed Clinton for President ... of Antarctica. This was satire :-) Regarding Genesis as the inspiration for a theme park ... only a few short summers ago I enjoyed a vacation Bible school wherein the Old Testament world became a petting zoo for the children's amusement. It was so well done; and the turnout was extraordinary. There is little difference between a zoo and a theme park. The Lord will call to His sheep in a way the sheep will hear. Should the call only go out to those who believe in an old Earth? Should the call be denied to those who believe in a young Earth? We are but children before the Lord, and the Lord warns us at our own peril not to stand between Him and His children. I agree, we most always be on guard for false prophets. But is the question of the Earth's age the measure of a false prophet? No ... "This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world." If the only stone cast against Hovind is that of being a "young Earth" creationist, then I fear, the stone is cast unjustly.

[betty boop]

...If the only stone cast against Hovind is that of being a "young Earth" creationist, then I fear, the stone is cast unjustly.

I don't know Hovind from a hole in the ground. I don't know what his doctrinal commitments are, or (until you told me) that he is a young Earth creationist. As for his endorsement of Hillary for president, all I said was that I'd heard a rumor that he had given her one. But I emphasize, I said it was a rumor, the implication being that, without substantiation, I could not credit it, having no information about it. So I asked my correspondent of the time if he could confirm its veracity, if any. I didn't hear back from him; but you advise me that Pastor Hovind satirically endorsed her for President of Antarctica. (Sounds good to me!) That answers the matter, as far as I'm concerned.

I do not "have a dog" in the Young Earth/Old Earth Creation "fight." I imagine that peoples' religious beliefs answer to the leading of the Holy Spirit that they have received. And that's good enuf for me: Certainly I have no right to impose my judgments in matters regarding the spiritual relations of a person with God.

At the same time, I would like to be treated likewise. I do not want to hear that I'm going straight to Hell because I do not subscribe to the received doctrine of any particular religious confession....

Anyhoot, I am not "casting stones" against Pastor Hovind. From my perspective, he is fully entitled to believe in whatever the Holy Spirit has given him the light to see.

As do I. Only Christ shall judge me.

Thank you so much for writing, so_real! May God's blessings ever be with you and your dear ones.

[so_real]

And may God generously bless you as well, betty boop :-)

[ExCTCitizen]

If I endorse Ted Cruz, will it be headlined? Never heard of this liberal before.