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Humans Are Slamming Into Driverless Cars and Exposing a Key Flaw (Bloomberg link only)
Bloomberg [Link Only] ^ | December 17, 2015 | Keith Naughton

Posted on 12/19/2015 7:28:30 AM PST by C19fan

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: ai; cars; robots
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1 posted on 12/19/2015 7:28:30 AM PST by C19fan
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This is what happens when your technocrats come against the organic organization of human society.


2 posted on 12/19/2015 7:29:37 AM PST by C19fan
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You mean like, people? “Humans” is a pretty cold description when among humans. That’s the Left for you.


3 posted on 12/19/2015 7:44:04 AM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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Don’t click on Bloomturd links.....he is the worst of the gun grabbers.


5 posted on 12/19/2015 7:48:25 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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They absolutely obey traffic laws and end up doing dangerous things like trying to merge onto interstates at the speed limit, rapidly stopping when traffic lights turn yellow, that sort of behavior. Human drivers expect a certain amount of leeway from other drivers, human reasoning, and driverless cars don’t provide it, robotic programming.


6 posted on 12/19/2015 7:51:29 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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From what I have read, driving behind a driverless car is like following a geriatric Asian lady who is talking on her cell phone.

Maybe the ‘slamming into driverless cars” thing is just due to frustration.


7 posted on 12/19/2015 7:57:23 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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This could be an interesting social experiment.

If it can be proven that robot cars always obey every traffic law, then wouldn't human drivers ALWAYS be at fault in an accident between robot and human drivers (except for very rare weather or mechanical failure factors)?

Taking this a step farther, will police and insurance companies punish drivers in the future for wanting to drive their own cars?

8 posted on 12/19/2015 8:13:29 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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Anything like a driverless nation?


9 posted on 12/19/2015 8:15:52 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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Driverless cars will never be so large scale as to prevent people from getting practice driving.

There is no consumer demand for them. We use cars to move ourselves back and forth...so why move a car around by itself?


10 posted on 12/19/2015 8:16:30 AM PST by lacrew
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They absolutely obey traffic laws and end up doing dangerous things like trying to merge onto interstates at the speed limit, rapidly stopping when traffic lights turn yellow, that sort of behavior. Human drivers expect a certain amount of leeway from other drivers, human reasoning, and driverless cars don't provide it, robotic programming.

BINGO!! All the intelligence / AI built into driverless cars will never be able account for all the different variables that are created in every day driving. They're programmed to follow a set of rules, and PEOPLE don't always follow those rules and sometimes for damn' good reason - to avoid having an accident.

I've also lost count of just how many jaw-droppingly-stupid things I've seen people do on the road that create opportunities for accidents/someone to lose their life. Just when I think I've seen it all, I haven't. I've been driving for 40 years.

11 posted on 12/19/2015 8:24:03 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Driverless cars are the farthest thing from artificial intelligence.


12 posted on 12/19/2015 8:27:34 AM PST by I want the USA back (Patriarchal binary all original-equipment breeder and White-privileged crusader.)
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I’ve attributed much of the crazy driving I’ve seen over the past decade or so to being too absorbed with the GPS. It tells them to turn, they turn, no matter how many lanes they cross. They miss a turn, they stop dead in the middle of traffic. If I’m traveling somewhere unfamiliar and need directions I get them beforehand and then try to anticipate the need to change lanes for a turn. A lot of people just set it and go, apparently.


13 posted on 12/19/2015 8:29:34 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Exactly. Not only do human drivers not strictly follow the rules, they don't even follow the same rules (or use the same parameters) consistently. Sometimes its even just a feeling - man I've slipped through a lot of yellows today, I better not do that again, my luck will run out...

As you say, even with the best rule sets...you (or the car's guidance system) is going to run into unexpected situations. People doing the screwiest most dangerous things. That's what defensive driving is all about.

15 posted on 12/19/2015 9:23:05 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: lacrew
There is no consumer demand for them.

In theory driverless cars could essentially eliminate traffic friction and automatically steer around bottlenecks. In highly congested areas, this would be significant. Since we will not control our borders, our children will live to see an America of a billion people. New cities will be built differently but in existing major metro areas, there is no way we can build enough roads to keep pace.

Around here, it takes WW III to add a lane on a major arterial road -- and I'm among those who usually oppose such projects. They severely degrade the neighborhoods whose front yards and tree plats are sacrificed, while making only a marginal and very temporary difference to commuters. In fact, increasing commuter traffic usually has already outpaced the capacity expansion even before the project has been completed. People are going to have to live nearer their jobs, and we're going to have to figure out how to move more cars faster on existing road systems.

16 posted on 12/19/2015 9:39:22 AM PST by sphinx
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Sorry, but you touched upon a pet peeve of mine. You are supposed to merge on to the interstate at speeds similar to the flow of traffic (presumably close to the speed limit). That is why they are called “acceleration ramps.”

Nothing is more annoying than people who disrupt the flow of traffic on the interstate on ramp because they do not know how to “blend in.”


17 posted on 12/19/2015 9:52:53 AM PST by Bo1988
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will police and insurance companies punish drivers in the future for wanting to drive their own cars?
I think that is a given. But I also think that before that happens, there will be digital traffic control, whereby autopiloted cars will be acting, not only on visual information, but on wireless communication. Thus, the idea of stopping at a red light (or stop sign) when there is no cross traffic to deconflict will become an anachronism. Active wireless communication/cooperation between vehicles will have to replace gestures drivers exchange now.

The transition period will, shall we say, be interesting . . .


18 posted on 12/19/2015 10:48:34 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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A computer has no instinct for survival. Instincts guide action based on whom survived being culled, and passed along their gut intuitions.


19 posted on 12/19/2015 10:50:41 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: lacrew
Driverless cars will never be so large scale as to prevent people from getting practice driving.

There is no consumer demand for them. We use cars to move ourselves back and forth...so why move a car around by itself?

You would’t want a car that dropped you off at your destination, parked itself, then came to you when you whistled for it . . .

20 posted on 12/19/2015 10:59:28 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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