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Apple Facing Lawsuit Over Clunky IPhone 4s Upgrade
NASDAQ ^ | December 31, 2015, 10:10:00 AM EDT

Posted on 12/31/2015 5:07:37 PM PST by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker

My pleasure!


21 posted on 01/01/2016 12:30:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: jimtorr

My ipod is no longer supported for any OS updates. It is an early gen but not the first. I don’t which gen. I’d have to dig it out of the drawer. If you don’t believe me I will dig it out.

My experience is different and I have been a consumer for a long time and a lot of money.

We have owned 5 ipods, one ipad, one ipod touch. Two are useful. One sort of. One is permanently plugged into a dock/speaker for power. The other still has a decent battery. It is my wife’s and it is the newest.

I and my family probably have at least $1000 invested in iTunes music, movies, etc.

I am providing this info to show that I have been a dedicated customer.


22 posted on 01/01/2016 8:19:35 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: roadcat
I still have composite monitors, using an NTSC connection. I have a collection of vintage machines, including monitors for the II, II+, IIe, IIgs and III. They all still work.

Thanks. I think the cool thing today is that if a business today were stuck with that Apple ll machine it would still useful and profitable to use

23 posted on 01/01/2016 8:19:48 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Planned obsolescence and Apple? Wow. I was just commenting about this. This is one of my frustrations with Apple. That and the battery issue. Apparently I am not the only one!

No sir, dhs, you were arguing that Apple did not design their products to be repair or have their batteries replaced. I kept countering your uninformed opinions with actual facts and links proving those facts. You stuck to your uninformed biased opinions. Your thick skull doesn't want facts, you want your opinion to be the only one, regardless of what the facts are. You did not want to pay a modest fee to replace the batteries when they finally conked out, wanting Apple to replace those batteries for free, years after any possible warranty had expired. You then argue that it is impossible to even replace the batteries. . . and then argued that no one can replace the batteries and asked if even Apple could do it. You simply did not know. . . but assumed it was impossible. When I told you they did, you argued they couldn't do it in the time they claimed they could do it in. You just want to argue anything to make Apple look bad.

As I pointed out in my commentary every single one of these lawsuits claiming this has been tossed out of court. They were probably brought by people like dhs12345, people who think products do not advance and are not eventually superseded by products that exceed their capabilities for being upgraded to match their abilities to equal the newer designs. They want the products they bought years ago to have the capabilities of the newer models merely with a software update and whine when they don't.

So, dhs, you are not vindicated by this bogus class action lawsuit, that like all the previous such suits will be tossed out based on the precedents already set by this and other courts. They simply do not have a case, as you do not.

24 posted on 01/01/2016 12:44:01 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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We have owned 5 iPods, one iPad, one ipod touch. Two are useful. One sort of. One is permanently plugged into a dock/speaker for power. The other still has a decent battery. It is my wife’s and it is the newest.

i've told you many times, dhs. Buy a battery for it and install it. Or take it to many of the companies that will replace the battery for you. Restore it to operation instead of whining about it. It will still run, still play music, still do what it was designed to do. In what way is it obsolete for what it was designed to do???? So what if it doesn't load the latest operating system that is designed for devices that DO THINGS YOUR iPOD SIMPLY DOESN'T HAVE THE HARDWARE TO DO???? Your iPod can't use the newest OS. Get that through your thick skull. Use the brain for something other than a space filler inside that skull.

You are like the guy who demands that his VHS deck play DVDs and is pissed off when it can't and blames the manufacturer for not designing the VHS deck to play DVDs when DVDs had not yet been invented. Technology moves on at a rapid pace and older tech cannot keep up. Quit whining and buy a new battery and install it. You tell me you have the skills to do it.

The more you whine, the more I doubt you do.

25 posted on 01/01/2016 12:56:05 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: jimtorr

My ipad is first gen.

Model number A1219. 64GB. Last time I tried to do as OS update I was told that my ipad wasn’t supported and I couldn’t upgrade it.


26 posted on 01/01/2016 4:38:42 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Swordmaker
I saw your tag line and wanted to balance my posts a little.

Some good things about Apple.

> They single handedly pulled the digital music player business out of the nose dive that whole industry was heading in after naptser. They appeased RIAA and brought them back from the brink and made it very convenient to purchase music legally.

> They were responsible for expanding the use of parallel SCSI. Especially as a harddisk interface. This opened a >huge< market for data storage late 80s to late 90s.

> Apple quality is very good. Both hardware and software.

Some bad things about Microsoft.

> Their OS is pretty bad. Especially every other release — ME, Vista,... all pretty bad. It is as if every other release is a field beta test for the actual release.

> My old laptop stated getting frequent blue screen of deaths. I reinstalled Linux on it and haven't had a problem with it. It has been three years. Clearly, it wasn't the hardware. The only explanation is that the OS gets stale and must be reinstalled. I have seen this before.

Linux is a very good free alternative to Windows. It will open all of the MS Office documents. Plus it is not as vulnerable to viruses. Did I mention that it is free?

> Virus vulnerabilities are well known and Windows has a the bad reputation.

> IE (better known as Internet Exploder) is a real pain to use. See the above comment about viruses. Especially, the latest version. It struggles with many websites. Not certain why and this is something that I have noticed recently. I run Chrome or Firefox. IE is almost impossible to use sometimes.

> Why anyone would want Windows on a phone is beyond me. Then again, I haven't had a phone with Windows on it. Although I have seen it in operation. Maybe because I remember the early versions of Windows CE. Terrible.

27 posted on 01/01/2016 5:46:24 PM PST by dhs12345
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