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Lies My Teacher Told Me: The True History of the War for Southern Independence
Shotwell Publishing ^ | Clyde N. Wilson

Posted on 01/09/2016 7:35:03 AM PST by soakncider

TRUE HISTORY OF THE WAR FOR SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE IN THIS AGE OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS there has never been a greater need and greater opportunity to refresh our understanding of what happened in America in the years 1861-1865 and start defending our Southern forebears as strongly as they ought to be defended. There is plenty of true history available to us. It is our job to make it known. All the institutions of American society, including nearly all Southern institutions and leaders, are now doing their best to separate the Confederacy off from the rest of American history and push it into one dark little corner labelled "Slavery and Treason". Being taught at every level of the educational system is the official party line that everything good that we or anyone believe about our Confederate ancestors is a myth, and by myth they mean a pack of lies that Southerners thought up to excuse their evil deeds and defeat....

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: dixie; history; individual; ntsa; nuttery; revisionism; southern; sovereignty
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To: central_va
Let's see Lincoln "freed" the slaves in the Confederacy by EO ( where have we seen a EO happy President before) which did nothing, really.

Remember how he boldly freed the slaves in Maryland, at the war's outset in 1861?

Oh, wait...

21 posted on 01/09/2016 8:04:36 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: soakncider
There is another book with the same title written by a fellow named James Lowen.

Oh, and what a true POS it is.

I actually read it because I try to be open minded, but that work was closer to Zinn’s even greater POS ‘People's History of the United States.’

Your post had me concerned for a moment.

I have not read this book but perhaps someday, as indeed I do try to remain objective.

22 posted on 01/09/2016 8:08:15 AM PST by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: kiryandil

OK i get it now...i’m slow to the table, but i usually depart with a full stomach.


23 posted on 01/09/2016 8:08:27 AM PST by soakncider ("The two enemies of the people are criminals and government"...Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rsobin

For the most part, correct.

I would say acquisition of power and/or wealth would be at the bottom of any aggression of one group of humans against another. Money alone wouldn’t explain the true motivations of those engaging in Islamic Jihad, would it?


24 posted on 01/09/2016 8:08:37 AM PST by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: kiryandil

No, he just jailed the Maryland state legislature instead.


25 posted on 01/09/2016 8:10:45 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kiryandil; soakncider

I actually fully agree that we are in the “midst of the anti-South hysteria currently infecting the American psyche”, as the ad premises.

But the Southron lost cause myths are revisionist histories by sore losers that ironically were taken up and accepted and modified for their own purposes by the communists and hard left.

Even now there is often a strange consonance among libertarian and so-called far right groups and the hard left.


26 posted on 01/09/2016 8:11:00 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Let_It_Be_So; rsobin
Money alone wouldn't explain the true motivations of those engaging in Islamic Jihad, would it?

The Muslims and their leader in the Spite House aren't playing for mere money.

They're playing for ALL THE MARBLES. Win those, and you have all the money.

Look at the Saudi hypocrites, before whom 0Muslim bows...

27 posted on 01/09/2016 8:12:54 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: ifinnegan

This book is not ‘revisionist’ history, it is just history with some editorial.


28 posted on 01/09/2016 8:13:35 AM PST by soakncider ("The two enemies of the people are criminals and government"...Thomas Jefferson)
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To: soakncider

BTTT


29 posted on 01/09/2016 8:14:23 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Pappy Smear

Apu! (digression from Civil War subject) I have not watched him in many years, but still remember almost verbatim: There was the episode where he and many on the show attended the art school, Marjory was learning painting I think, and she and Apu bumped into each other on campus, Apu was taking a writing course ... A: “I long to tell the story, of an idealistic young hindu, pushed TOO far, by convenience store bandits” M: “Oh Apu! That’s a wonderful idea what are you going to call it?” A: “I call it ‘Get Your Hands of My Jerky, Turkey’” M: “Oh that’s a wonderful name” A: “Oh, well, actually my brother Sanju thought of it.”


30 posted on 01/09/2016 8:15:33 AM PST by tinyowl (A equals A, And C Edmund Wright thinks I am an idiot and a Trump Sycophant)
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To: rsobin; ought-six

“People assign every possible motivation for going to war. The bottom line is always, every time and forever, money.”

You guys are probably unaware that this view is pure Marx.

The left assigns all motivation as economic.

The Southron revisionists are strongly Marxist in their analysis.


31 posted on 01/09/2016 8:16:44 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan; soakncider
I pay no attention to the Lost Cause stuff.

I'm talking about respecting men who bled for the strength of their convictions.

Modern Pajamaboyz who attack the Confederate veterans from their modern-day Safe Space deserve to have the teeth slapped out of their lying faces for their cowardly propaganda.

32 posted on 01/09/2016 8:17:30 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: soakncider

Is it the typical Southron lost cause Marxism?

Or is it actually objective and interesting?

It’s not marketed that way. It’s marketed as if for a pre-existing sub-culture, like left winger books are marketed.


33 posted on 01/09/2016 8:19:05 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan; soakncider; rsobin; ought-six
The Southron revisionists are strongly Marxist in their analysis.

Get over your bad self, Pajamaboy*.

soakncider wrote: "This book is not 'revisionist' history, it is just history with some editorial."




*[Since Pajamaboy is a Metrosexual, and of indeterminate sex, the phrase can also refer to Progressive women. Think "It's Pat!"]

34 posted on 01/09/2016 8:22:59 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: ifinnegan

You’ve been dismissed, Pajamaboygirl.


35 posted on 01/09/2016 8:23:42 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: ifinnegan

I have been a southerner for quite a while now, but i have never heard the Confederacy compared to marxism. I think that the opposite is true. the northern totalitarian aggressive abuse of a free and sovereign Christian people in the South resembles the acts of marxists.


36 posted on 01/09/2016 8:26:08 AM PST by soakncider ("The two enemies of the people are criminals and government"...Thomas Jefferson)
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To: soakncider

“Yes, but that is irrelevant”

Good comeback.


37 posted on 01/09/2016 8:27:15 AM PST by Slambat
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To: rsobin

People assign every possible motivation for going to war. The bottom line is always, every time and forever, money.

...

Well, there was Big Cotton.

But on an individual level it was more complex. Robert E. Lee was against secession, was tolerant of slavery, but not a proponent. The deciding factor for him was loyalty to his state, even though the Union offered him a nice commission which his wife wanted him to take.

In the big picture though, the Union offered generous comprises to avoid war, but the rebels wanted nothing but a fight. As Sherman said, War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.


38 posted on 01/09/2016 8:27:32 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: rsobin

“People assign every possible motivation for going to war. The bottom line is always, every time and forever, money.”

So true, so true.

I am a southerner, yet, I freely admit both the North, the South, and Lincoln, had financial interests in the war. The regional ideologies were nothing but manifestations of their financial interests.

Every single war in the history of the world had a financial motivator behind it. Even for the muslims today they expect rewards for their actions.


39 posted on 01/09/2016 8:27:35 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: soakncider

The Civil War was mainly fought over cotton...granted slavery was a part of the wedge put forth by Northerner’s ...the competition from the industrializing North with all the new immigrants were competing against the Southern states who had a great product in huge demand which at one point was more than a 5th of our nation’s GDP at the time. I am in the middle of reading a book on this very topic printed in 1960 . It is highly illustrated along with concise and factual text that seems to be without any bias either way. It is “The American Heritage picture history of The American Civil War” I would recommend this for grandchildren “IF” they are even taught this in school anymore.


40 posted on 01/09/2016 8:28:59 AM PST by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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