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Hurting Ben Carson's Campaign
Talking Points Memo ^ | 2/3/2016 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 02/03/2016 6:09:05 PM PST by ElainaVer

"CNN is reporting that Ben Carson will stop campaigning after Iowa. Make sure to tell all of your peers at the caucus supporting Carson that they should coalesce around the true conservative who will be in the race for the long haul: TED C

BEN CARSON: “A culture exists within the Cruz camp that would allow people to take advantage of a situation like this in a very dishonest way. Isn't this the same thing we see with the Obama administration, the IRS scandal? No responsibility. ((EDIT)) They were awfully anxious to get it out there, weren't they?”

But the Cruz campaign is also wrong and Senator Cruz should take disciplinary action against some of his staff.

However, that may not happen:

RICK TYLER, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR TED CUZ: “We simply as a campaign repeated what Ben Carson had said in his own words. He said after Iowa he was going to go back to Florida for a couple of days and then he was going to go to D.C. to the prayer breakfast. And what that told us was he was not going to New Hampshire.”

But again, Carson had events booked in New Hampshire, so come on.

As far as CNN is concerned, it is standing behind its initial report, which is ludicrous.

That news agency screwed up big time and apparently doesn't care.

Talking Points has said it many times. The state of American journalism is on the verge of collapse.

Ideology has permeated hard news coverage and honest reporting is becoming almost scarce, especially in political circles.

CNN should apologize. Ted Cruz should take some action. And this should never again happen.

The Carson campaign was damaged by erroneous information, period.

And that's the memo.

(Excerpt) Read more at billoreilly.com ...


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To: SampleMan

I am ashamed of some on Free Republic——I believed this site and the webmaster had higher ideals and character——I have given my last donation as I see my country and many of the citizenry are lost to decency, fairness and honorable acts——cheers


21 posted on 02/03/2016 6:23:36 PM PST by cmomm44
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To: ElainaVer

Whoa! Sure glad I’m sitting down. REALLY?! I’d have just about paid money to see that. (LOL Ewww)

:-) I knew what you meant re Cruz instead of Rove.


22 posted on 02/03/2016 6:23:55 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: chae
Rubio did it prior to Cruz, and you're only focusing on Cruz...

Maybe because of the sleazy mailer he also sent out. Do the depths that cruz is willing to descend to even have a bottom? At this point I would say hillary, billy and obumber are more ethical then cruz.
23 posted on 02/03/2016 6:24:37 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: ElainaVer
Karl Rove shocked me by giving full support to Trump’s claims about Cruz

Why did it shock you? Rove would sell his own mother out if it meant getting HIS GOPe guy into the White House. They have absolutely NO FEAR of Donald Trump running against Rubio....Cruz is another matter.

24 posted on 02/03/2016 6:26:03 PM PST by TXSearcher (Longtime Lurker......now a newbie)
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To: don-o
Is he campaigning anywhere? Looked on his website and found no events.

If he is not, then I guess the sleazy crap cruz is doing is ok, right?
25 posted on 02/03/2016 6:26:06 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: JoSixChip

Really, you want to compare a mailer to a serial rapist and and 2 murders?


26 posted on 02/03/2016 6:26:35 PM PST by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: ElainaVer

Cruz and Rubio’s campaigns both campaigned for votes using the breaking news story from CNN. It is ethical and legal to campaign for voters at a caucus to change their votes based on a breaking news story. The sad thing is that Carson’s campaigns press release which was reported on by CNN gave the strong impression that he was suspending his campaign when apparently that is not the case.


27 posted on 02/03/2016 6:26:48 PM PST by dschapin
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To: ElainaVer
We simply as a campaign repeated what Ben Carson had said in his own words. He said after Iowa he was going to go back to Florida for a couple of days and then he was going to go to D.C. to the prayer breakfast.
Patently untrue. They repeated what CNN said, not Ben Carson.
28 posted on 02/03/2016 6:27:13 PM PST by eastsider
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To: Nateman

“My theory is the Rubio Campaign came up with this.”

I’m not discounting your theory, Nateman, but without written proof there’s not as much chance of including Rubio. As I included in the excerpt . . the note was sent out and signed by Cruz. That is damaging.


29 posted on 02/03/2016 6:27:20 PM PST by ElainaVer
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To: ElainaVer

I am sorry , but the “kurfllufil” belongs to Carson.

REally. Really, who the heck on the night of voting announces any freakin’ change in schedule. Let alone...”going home to Florida.”

Give me an eff*&%% break here. What Carson announced to CNN should have waited until after voting. REEEEEEALLY. Who the heck is his campaign manager....they are the ones who screwed up


30 posted on 02/03/2016 6:28:02 PM PST by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: ElainaVer

We’re all being ruthlessly manipulated and in the end the GOPe will succeed in taking out both Cruz and Trump because people can’t train their fire at the real enemy and focus on each other, including Cruz and Trump!


31 posted on 02/03/2016 6:28:08 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ElainaVer

As I said elsewhere, I don’t trust Cruz or Trump, but this whole thing is silly. Would anyone really fall for what somebody tweeted or said prior to a caucus? Where are all these people who supposedly were tricked into changing their vote? I haven’t heard of even one person stepping up so far. If someone did get fooled by this stunt, wouldn’t the fact that there was a Carson spokesman at each caucus let them know that Carson was still in the race? And Carson did better than the polls said he would, so it must not have hurt him much.

Yeah, some of the people working on the Cruz campaign are real jerks, but having volunteered once on a senate campaign for someone, I can say that most of the people in politics are sleazy jerks.

I am bothered more by Cruz randomly tossing out Bible verses without their having any connection to what he is saying. It’s pure pandering.

As for Trump, what is the deal with his pandering? Ethanol, telling kids at a community college that the government has to help kids with student loan debt, and another time saying that he thinks some in the GOP would just let people die from lack of health care?

A pox on all of them. I think I’ll move to some cave. Every election politicians promise the same things and say whatever people want to hear, and then do nothing once in office. Voters are suckers.


32 posted on 02/03/2016 6:28:25 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Outlaw76

Exactly, the Carson campaign should be rapping itself for running a campaign as if they were running for JR high class President.

They speak stupidly to CNN (who the hell goes “home” for clothes in the middle of a campaign?), and everyone draws the reasonable conclusion that he’s dropping out. If there is a crime, it’s in Carson taking all that money and wasting it on what amounts to a book tour.


33 posted on 02/03/2016 6:28:29 PM PST by phothus (http://buanadha.wordpress.com/)
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To: JoSixChip
Ooooh, Cruz is SO bad. Please. This is such a nontroversy. Ya know, it's a total BS issue to get panties in a wad over, but I'd give it more weight, if it weren't such an obvious pile on of Ted Cruz, since Rubio did the SAME THING and not one peep about him. It's political mud slinging at it's finest, to take out the BEST candidate we've had since Reagan. So stuff it, you whiney cry babies, who obviously have no clue what it is to run a campaign.


34 posted on 02/03/2016 6:28:46 PM PST by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: JoSixChip

There was nothing sleazy about making sure potential Carson voters knew about the news reports that their guy was going home to Florida rather than continuing on to campaign in NH and SC. It is perfectly legal and expected in a caucus to lobby voters to switch their votes to your candidate. Cruz’s people believed based on the CNN reports that Carson was either about to suspend his campaign or at least quit actively campaigning. Thus they urged Carson supporters to support a conservative candidate who was going to fight for the nomination rather than wasting their votes. There is nothing unethical in that.


35 posted on 02/03/2016 6:30:53 PM PST by dschapin
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To: dschapin

“The sad thing is that Carson’s campaigns press release which was reported on by CNN gave the strong impression that he was suspending his campaign when apparently that is not the case.”

Honestly, dschapin, have you ever in the history of politics heard of a candidate suspending their campaign in the middle of a caucus??? Who would do that??? It defies common sense. Cruz should have known that and checked with Carson first . . but Cruz already knew it wasn’t true that Carson was quitting after Chris Moody sent the two tweets, within mere minutes of the first ones . . that Carson was not quitting.


36 posted on 02/03/2016 6:31:44 PM PST by ElainaVer
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To: JoSixChip
Trump likens Carson's 'pathology' to that of a child molester
37 posted on 02/03/2016 6:31:50 PM PST by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: chae
Really, you want to compare a mailer to a serial rapist and and 2 murders?

Sleazy is as sleazy does. When you are talking about something as importation at the POTUS, it matters.
38 posted on 02/03/2016 6:32:58 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: SampleMan

Ben Carson is coming off as a pathetic character. No dirty tricks here Ben, stop crying.


39 posted on 02/03/2016 6:33:17 PM PST by hollyweed
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To: ElainaVer

Who knows what Carson is doing from day to day and from minute to minute? He’s certainly not running a normal campaign and nobody (probably not even him) thinks he can win or should win. If Carson’s campaign was dumb enough to say that sort of stuff to CNN, they deserved what they had coming their way.


40 posted on 02/03/2016 6:33:34 PM PST by phothus (http://buanadha.wordpress.com/)
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