What if it is made public that Obama WAS born in Kenya?

Rumplemeyer

[Rumplemeyer]

What if, it is found that President Obama was born in Kenya, and did not meet the requirements to hold the office of POUS, how would that effect the legislation he put into place and the executive orders, court appointments, in other word everything he has done? Everyone thoughts and opinions.

[Fred Nerks]

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Mark identifies two children with the Kenyan and Ruth as himself and David in 1968.

He then identifies two children with Mr & Mrs Baker (and there's 'Rita' Zeituni in the background) in the year 1970 as being the same.

Now it's 1971 - that's THREE YEARS AFTER the two boys were first identified by Mark and they are now YOUNGER in 1971 than they were in 1968 and 1970.

There's really only one person who should be asked for an explanation, and that is the author.

[danamco]

Yesterday I saw a post with DNA from London,(70+% Asian) did you see that?

[WildHighlander57]

Thanks for the link, seizethecarp!

I found these posts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?page=1833#1833

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?page=1834#1834

From these posts, it doesn’t look like FN agreed back then that Mal X and that Egyptian lady were the parents of 0 bama.

So, how does that tie in with those pix of Roy/Malik, Roman, Mark, and David that I posted?

Why have David not exist, if, as little Jeremiah and freeper David said upthread in this thread, that Mal x and the Egyptian lady were 0’s parents?

David, little Jeremiah, Fred nerks

Time to set things straight!

[Fred Nerks]

Don’t bother to ping me. My reply was to David.

[WildHighlander57]

David, Fred Nerks, little jeremiah

Reference post #187

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=187#187

Who is the younger boy in pictures #11, #19/20 back row, #21, #22, #23 bottom, and #24 bottom?

Can you explain his presence?

Using the —pictures—, not the dates; put them in order of appearance.

There is a younger sibling to Mark, next to him in age.

This is most readily apparent in pix # 23 and #24 bottom pics, and in #19 & #20.

Again, who is this next younger sibling to Mark?????

[Cementjungle]

What if it is made public that Obama WAS born in Kenya?

Obama issues Executive Order making Kenya the 51'st state in the union. Retroactive to 1961. Congress says "cool".

[WildHighlander57]

OK, I will ask David.

David, see questions in #219, #220, #223, and #225

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=219#219

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=220#220

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=223#223

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=225#225

Compare the features, who is the kid next younger in age to Mark? Not using the dates.

[WildHighlander57]

Fyi

See # 224 & #227

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=224#224

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=227#227

[thecodont]

We were made to redefine our most basic and obvious form of citizen: born here to citizen parents.

That's it right there.

[WildHighlander57]

Interesting!

Question for you and those on your ping list:

In #187

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=187#187

who is the younger boy in pictures #11, #19/20 back row, #21, #22, #23 bottom, and #24 bottom?

Can you/anyone explain his presence?

Not looking at #25 and the one at the top in #24; those have been hashed over a —lot—

[WildHighlander57]

See observations and questions in #189 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=189#189

And, who’s the next youngest kid to Mark in the pics of Marks book, pictures #11, #19/20 back row, #21, #22, #23 bottom, and #24 bottom, in this post?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=187#187

Not looking at #25 and the one at the top in #24; those have been hashed over a —lot—

Everyone is accounted for in the present day (David, up to the mid eighties )

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=210#210

So, who’s that younger kid next to Mark in age?

And note that in all the pix of the book pix, Mark says “c” for “circa” and “around” such and such a date.

[Fred Nerks]

I have seen babies torn apart by violence and neglect. As babies, Barack’s eyes were full of life and hope, and mine were tinged with a bittersweet innocence. Then we were separated and we followed two different destinies. No longer babies, Barack and I are still recovering from that. He from the absence of a good father, and I from the presence of a bad one...

marknedesandjo.com

There are any number of possible interpretations...this rhetoric is as nebulous as the rest of the entire mythos. However, if Mark is still trying to convince us that he is the older, darker boy in the 'two little boys' image, then what he's done is identify the child sitting on the left as zero.

I think he has also, in an ambiguous use of language, made it clear that the two boys did not have the same father...but somewhere...they lived together.

[4Zoltan]

The problem with the birth in Kenya is the 1990 newspaper articles that all say born in Hawaii. They pre-date the literary agent bio.

Any conspiracy to fabricate a birth in Hawaii narrative have to pre-date those articles. Late 1980s.

There is also his 1999 Illinois Senate webpage which also says birth in Hawaii

[Nero Germanicus]

You’d have to go back 55 years. Barack Obama Senior told the Immigration and Naturalization Service on August 31, 1961 that he had a son who was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.
http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/07/INS-6.jpg

worldnetdaily.com uncovered the INS Officer William Woods memo under a Freedom of Information Act request looking into Barack Obama Senior’s student visa records

[angryoldfatman]

Do you have a link to those newspaper articles?

My point with posting the 1991 printed bio was that it wasn’t so preposterous to think he was born in Kenya. It wasn’t pulled out of thin air by wild-haired spastic conspiracy theorists; there was a documented source for the claim.

[angryoldfatman]

Also, the first Hawaiian birth certificate has an anachronism, which makes me doubt it as authentic.

I do not have strong evidence against the second one, but it did not appear until 2011. That alone is not enough to knock it down, of course, but others have disputed its authenticity using certificate numbers and other data that I cannot independently verify. Suspicion would not be unfounded.

One other thing. I have saved on my hard drive at home copies of newspaper articles concerning Obama’s Hawaiian birth, but they mention two different hospitals - Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological and Queen’s Medical Center.

I will check the dates on those when I get back home. I will also do a copypaste of their text unless I can find a place to upload .MHT files successfully.

[4Zoltan]

Los Angeles Times March, 1990

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-03-12/news/vw-74_1_harvard-law-review

New York Times February, 1990

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html

Chicago Tribune February, 1990

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-02-07/news/9001110408_1_ann-dunham-chicago-housing-authority-barack-obama

[4Zoltan]

What is the anachronism? I don’t recall hearing about that before.

[Nero Germanicus]

There were articles in the New York Times, the Washinton Post, the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times and other cities’ newspapers in February & March,1990 when Obama had just been elected President of Volume of the Harvard Law Review. Those articles mention Hawaii as his place of birth. That was a year before the Promotional booklet was published.
Not all of those newspapers from 26 years ago are still available on the web but links to several still are.
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2008/09/barack-obama-ha.html

[4Zoltan]

The problem with the certificate numbers argument is it only works if you ignore certain evidence. The argument is based on the the numbers of the Nordyke twins and Obama.

Nordyke, Susan – 10637 – August 5th, Accepted/Filed August 11th
Nordyke, Gretchen – 10638 – August 5th, Accepted/Filed August 11th
Obama, Barack – 10641 – August 4th, Accepted/Filed August 8th

The argument is that his is out of sequence. But when you add in other cert numbers from August, 1961 his number isn’t.

Ah’Nee, Johanna – 09945 – August 23rd, Kapiolani Hospital
Nordyke, Susan – 10637 – August 5th, Kapiolani Hospital
Nordyke, Gretchen – 10638 – August 5th, Kapiolani Hospital
Obama, Barack – 10641 – August 4th, Kapiolani Hospital
Waidelich, Stig – 10920 – August 4th, Kapiolani Hospital

Sunahara, Virginia - 11080 - August 4th, Waimea General Hospital