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  • Would You Choose Immortality?

    06/19/2014 10:34:45 AM PDT · by 6ft2inhighheelshoes · 90 replies
    Ricochet ^ | June 19,2014 | Melissa Dawdy
    After reading Jon Gabriel’s recent piece regarding funerals, it occurred to me that ever since I learned about mortality (at about age four), I’ve wanted absolutely nothing to do with it. I’ve kept in shape and have always enjoyed lots of butter (I knew it was good for me before Time announced it!). But I still know that, in the end, death is a place where we are all equal. Science and technology will eventually find a way for people to live a very long time, if not “forever.” The first to benefit will be the very wealthy, but the...
  • The devil defines "liberal"

    06/04/2014 12:50:34 PM PDT · by guyshomenet · 5 replies
    2014-06-04 | Guy Smith
    Thought the following descriptions and caustic quotes concerning liberals might be amusing to many. Oddly no definition for "libertarian" though a bit of running commentary about both Republicans and Democrats. Extracted from the newly released The Devil’s Dictionary (new millennia edition). Grab a copy for your cynical old man for father's day., noun 1. Someone who does not care what you do as long as it is compulsory. 2. A person who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which he proposes to pay-off with your money. 3. A person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment....
  • Brainwashing A Nation

    01/23/2014 12:51:04 PM PST · by EAGLE7 · 18 replies
  • UFC 168: Chris Weidman retains title when Anderson Silva breaks leg

    12/28/2013 10:47:05 PM PST · by andyk · 29 replies
    The Chicago Tribune ^ | December 28, 2013 | Todd Martin
    Round 1. Silva comes out with his hands high, showing respect for Weidman's power. <snip> Round 2. Silva's hands are again high. Silva throws a leg kick but Weidman checks it and Silva breaks his leg.
  • Weidman dominates first, then Silva leg break ends fight in TKO (UFC)

    12/28/2013 10:37:56 PM PST · by Impy · 10 replies
    Fox Sports ^ | 12-29-13 | Mike Chiappetta
    All of the hype, all of the buildup, and none of the satisfaction of a conclusive finish. In a terribly unfortunate ending to an anticipated rematch, Anderson Silva broke his leg on a checked kick, bringing the UFC 168 main event to a finish at 1:16 of the second round. The official ruling was a TKO win for champion Chris Weidman.

    12/20/2013 5:46:03 AM PST · by Nextrush · 28 replies
    Vanity | 12/20/2013 | Self
    If anyone gets any relief from their financial burdens because of Barack Obama's latest cynical political move to tinker with Obamacare, I am glad for them. I am also glad for all the grassroots people and the small group of authentically conservative elected officials like Senator Ted Cruz who have stood up to really oppose Obamacare. I am not so glad for the business as usual politicians of Washington, the Democrats, the Republicans, Obama, Boehner, McConnell etc. etc. who never really opposed "healthcare reform" to begin with, but used the issue to play to emotions so they could win elections....

    11/22/2013 6:09:07 AM PST · by Nextrush · 10 replies
    11/22/2013 | Self
    There were no tweets coming from Dallas 50 years ago today. No pictures from IPhones. No streaming video online. Most television broadcasts and all television network news broadcasts were normally colorless. It was a different world technology wise. Still and film photographers were taking pictures that day. Pictures that had to be developed before they could be seen. News reporters witnessing the commotion and the hearing the shots at Dealey Plaza had a sense of duty to find a phone and call the news in to their offices. For many this meant a trip into a nearby office or building...
  • Did Rush Recently Release a Book? I haven't heard....

    10/30/2013 9:13:55 AM PDT · by C. Edmund Wright · 114 replies
    self | October 30 2013 | C. Edmund Wright
    Seems to me I heard a rumor.....does anybody know? Is it true? So hard to find out....
  • WHo names a company after A Generic Term??

    10/24/2013 11:12:59 AM PDT · by MeshugeMikey · 62 replies
    MeshugeMikey ^ | October 24 2013 | MeshugeMikey
    who names a company for a common generic term? CGI....a software firm who generated a vast portion of the Obamascare website failure didnt know that normally CGI is an acronym for Computer Generated Image??? CMS another software vendor involved in Obamascares "success" didnt know that ordinarily the initials CMS are an acronym for Content management system ? this should have been a red flag
  • I got the letter about Obamacare

    10/21/2013 3:14:16 PM PDT · by DallasBiff · 10 replies
    UnitedHealthCare | 10/21/13
    Important Notice Regarding Your UnitedHealthcare Plan snip We want to let you know that the exact health plan you are enrolled in now may no longer be offered in the upcoming plan year. Please note, nothing is changing at this time. Your benefits will not be affected until your plan renewal in 2014.
  • Why isn't the name Boston "Celtics" considered racist?

    10/19/2013 3:33:07 PM PDT · by DallasBiff · 95 replies
    If the Redskins change their name, shouldn't the Celtics change their name to something like Chowderheads.

    09/16/2013 8:11:22 AM PDT · by Concerned · 24 replies ^ | 09/16/2013 | Concerned
    Did you know AKA "0bama" has a FORGED Selective Service "registration" with a ***NEVER-USED*** 2-DIGIT-YR FRAUDULENT "POSTMARK?"
  • Loud Mime Talk Radio

    08/20/2013 11:43:51 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 3 replies
    Tune in to Steve Maikoski's show, The Constitutional Corner at 3:00 PM EST. Channel One at LA Talk Radio
  • Glenn Beck plans to break damaging political news within a day (??)

    June 12, 2013, Glenn Beck today on his show stated that he plans to break news within 24 hours that could take down the entire power structure of the government. The news that Beck said he will break within 24 hours comes on the reports of the NSA spying scandal when NSA contractor, Edward Snowden exposed the vast spy network that covered every single communication apparatus in America.
  • Glenn Beck plans to break damaging political news within a day

    06/12/2013 6:47:51 PM PDT · by ConservativeMan55 · 296 replies
    Examiner ^ | 6/12/13 | Christopher Collins
    Glenn Beck today on his show stated that he plans to break news within 24 hours that could take down the entire power structure of the government.
  • IRS Scandal Confirms why we need the 2 Amendment

    05/18/2013 8:33:57 AM PDT · by ealgeone · 27 replies
    05-18-13 | Vanity
    In light of the ongoing IRS scandal, and who knows what else these folks are up to, doesn't it make it plain to see why we need the Second Amendment? If a government can ask what kind of prayers are being said in an organization there is practically no limit to what else they can ask.
  • The Consequences of Electing a Manchurian Candidate

    05/02/2013 1:10:47 PM PDT · by HalTa · 18 replies
    Question: How would a Manchurian Candidate govern if elected President of the United States? Answer: Exactly as Barak Hussein Obama. Is there any doubt that Obama cannot communicate face to face with the Republicans because it is impossible for his handlers to program him in advance to participate in an unscripted conversation. So, Obama fund raises, plays golf, takes vacations, entertains lavishly at OUR house,while his handlers are busy destroying the foundation of our Country.
  • Good Men with Guns

    02/24/2013 6:59:37 AM PST · by Halo-JM · 2 replies
    Drop Zone Media ^ | 24 Feb 2013 | Drop Zone Media
    Good men with guns, and Bad men with guns, same Guns different Men. The Outlaw is in the Drop Zone!
  • PC Crazy!

    02/17/2013 5:42:57 AM PST · by Keli Kilohana · 6 replies
    The University of Missouri is going to recognize Wiccan and pagan holidays--"so no one feels left out." But, whatever you do, DON'T SAY "MERRY CHRISTMAS!"
  • A large segment of Obama-Biden's base more than likely could not legally purchase a firearm

    01/11/2013 10:56:15 AM PST · by WyCoKsRepublican · 26 replies
    There are lots of reasons Obama and VP "Goofball" Biden want to take your guns. Just food for thought. I firmly believe that a large part of their base could not legally buy a firearm due to criminal history, mental illness or just plain stupidity. Of course, his goons and voter base will obtain firearms of all kinds illegally. The NRA needs to continue to lead the fight and increase its ranks in the wake of this constitutional showdown.
  • Republicans vote to destroy marriage (vanity)

    12/31/2012 7:25:58 AM PST · by GreaterSwiss · 26 replies
    Per drudge the tax deal would be 400k for Indiv and 450k for family. So why get married? Two single taxpayers would in theory have 800k limit ala Andrew cuomo and his gf. Obama's base is single people. Also in France they overturned their tax law for this very reason!
  • BRF grad Jack Taylor sets NCAA record with 138 points in a game

    11/21/2012 6:05:53 PM PST · by shove_it · 39 replies
    LaCrosseTribune ^ | 21 Nov 2012 | John Casper Jr.
    The goal was to get Jack Taylor out of a shooting slump. He did that. Then he went out and scored the most points ever in a college basketball game. Taylor, a Black River Falls High School graduate, is about to get his 15 minutes of national fame after scoring an NCAA-record 138 points for Grinnell College in a 179-104 victory over Faith Baptist Bible College on Tuesday night in Grinnell, Iowa... The previous NCAA record was held by Clarence “Bevo” Francis, who scored 113 points in a 1954 game for Division II Rio Grande....
  • Romney Needs To Advertise On Radio

    10/11/2012 12:10:04 PM PDT · by SarahPalin2012 · 17 replies
    One thing that was impressive in 2008 was the amount of Obama ads on the radio -- this more than TV I believe is effective because we are a captive audience in a car. This should be much less expensive, and all the McCain robocalls in 2008 were irritating and not effective. Romney/Ryan needs to spend ad money on radio.
  • What if unemployment drops to 7.9 percent? Because of those who gave up looking?

    10/04/2012 8:16:35 AM PDT · by line drive to right · 13 replies
    Oct. 4, 2012 | Line Drive To Right
    Mitt Romeny and the Republicans' campaigns have so much invested into the eight percent unemployment number, including millions and millions of dollars in ads. What if that number somehow drops below eight percent in Friday's report or in the report that is released four days before the election? It will be played by the media in a way that would improve Obama's chances, that he has turned things around.....The ONLY REASON it could be spun that way is that our side has almost never completed the sentence on unemployment. We should be saying over and over that the only reason...
  • Obama Campaign Responds to Eastwood's Empty Chair Jibe

    08/31/2012 5:26:56 AM PDT · by kristinn · 150 replies
    Friday, August 31, 2012 | Kristinn
    The Twitter account of Barack Obama responded last night to Clint Eastwood's Republican convention speech mocking Obama with an empty chair.A photo captioned "This seat's taken" was posted featuring a rear view of Obama presiding over a meeting while seated in a highback leather chair with a brass plaque on the back embossed, "THE PRESIDENT January 20, 2009"If the photo doesn't load, here's the URL:
  • Rick Santorum decides to launch a new organization - Patriot Voices

    06/08/2012 3:40:03 PM PDT · by Iam1ru1-2 · 8 replies
    Email ^ | Rick Santorum
    Friend, Over the past two months, I've spent a lot of time reflecting upon the past year. I've been thinking about the campaign we ran, the overwhelming support from our grassroots family, and how we accomplished what nobody thought we could: we reminded the nation that conservative values are alive and well all across America. I knew that we had to harness that success and momentum, and keep propelling forward our shared commitment to promoting faith, family, freedom and opportunity in this country. That is why I've decided to launch a new organization, Patriot Voices. This grassroots and online organization...
  • Could Romney be testing Gingrich as a possible VP candidate via Meet the Press and Vegas with Trump?

    05/26/2012 9:41:57 AM PDT · by mitchell001 · 81 replies
    May 26, 2012 | Ralph Mitchell
    Sunday, Newt Gingrich will be on Meet the Press as a Romney surrogate. Tuesday, Newt will be campaigning with Mitt Romney and Donald Trump in Las Vegas. Could Romney be testing the Newt for VP waters? Nobody, gets TV news ratings like Gingrich. Nobody can be a campaign pitbull like Gingrich. Newt can sing many songs on TV news. The other GOP VP candidates are milk toast next to Newt. Is it possible?
  • Trayvon Martin Lawyer Warns Prosecutor of 'Pandemonium' if Zimmerman Not Charged

    04/10/2012 12:15:38 PM PDT · by kristinn · 135 replies
    Tuesday,April 10, 2012 | Kristinn
    In comments that can be seen as an effort to intimidate Florida's special state prosecutor Angela Corey with nationwide race riots, Benjamin Crump, an attorney for the family of slain 17 year-old black Floridian Trayvon Martin warned of "pandemonium" around America and the world should Corey decide to not prosecute admitted Martin killer George Zimmerman, who has claimed self-defense. Crump issued the dire warning in an interview with BBC5. In a case that has inflamed racial tensions across the United States and drawn global attention, the unarmed Martin was shot to death by Zimmerman on February 26 as he walked...
  • I can't take it, FOX slammed Santorum andpraised Romney again. Who writes their stuff?!!

    04/05/2012 2:59:13 AM PDT · by stpio · 41 replies
    April 5, 2012 I was listening to FOX News (Haaah!) on the radio this morning and they announced Santorum was taking four days off from the campaign, then they announced...proclaimed, Romney on the other hand is hard at work in Pennsylvania. It was so biased...excuse me...we have Good Friday and it is Easter this weekend.
  • Why Gingrich Should Stay in the GOP race all the way to Tampa Convention

    03/25/2012 6:49:58 AM PDT · by mitchell001 · 41 replies · 8+ views
    March 25, 2012 | Ralph Mitchell
    Newt Gingrich is so valuable to the American Conservative movement in America. This is why Newt should stay in the race all the way to the convention in August. Everyday, Newt clearly expresses conservative policy, positions, plans and Obama rebuttals. Newt pushes and explains doable plans for energy, Social Security, Iran etc every week, where Santorum and Romney are talking pious generalities. Let's face it. The other thing that Newt is doing with his substantive speeches and TV radio appearances is he is showing the world that he is solid presidential material. So if Mitt or Rick continue to screw...
  • Newt Gingrich has a Gift, the ability to clearly answer questions & describe solutions to problems.

    03/11/2012 10:22:18 AM PDT · by mitchell001 · 47 replies · 2+ views
    March 11, 2012 | Ralph Mitchell
    After watching today's Sunday News shows this morning, I was struck how gifted Newt Gingrich is in answering questions. On both Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace and on Face the Nation with Bob Sheiffer, Newt smoothly and clearly answered with substance, questions ranging from Afganistan to how to get to $2.50 per gallonn gasoline. Newt also calmly, clearly, truthfully and respectfully answered how he and Santorum differed. My conclusion is that we conservative Americans should wholeheartedly support Newt for President so we can retrieve our rightful place as citizens who can truly have our wishes listened to and implemented...
  • Boehner Calls Rush Limbaugh, Gives Details of Negotiations With Reid, McConnell

    07/25/2011 10:11:01 AM PDT · by kristinn · 288 replies
    Monday, July 25, 2011 | Kristinn
    Rush Limbaugh said Speaker of the House John Boehner phoned him this morning around 10:30 to brief him on the latest news about his negotiations with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to raise the nation's debt ceiling.Limbaugh told about the conversation on his nationally syndicated radio program. Boehner said there is a two-tier plan in the works. Step one would cut $1.1 trillion in spending with a $1 trillion increase in the debt that would get the government to April 2012 with no tax increases.The next tier would be recommended cuts by a joint...
  • Man boy is PISSED NOW! (VANITY)

    07/22/2011 3:51:40 PM PDT · by Kevin in California · 151 replies
    Anyone watching this pathethic president now? He's IRATE now!
  • Repeal Obamacare waivers as part of debt negotiations?

    07/16/2011 11:46:28 AM PDT · by Weight of Glory · 21 replies
    What if, as part of the debt ceiling negotiations, Republicans demand a repeal of all waivers granted to date as well as making future waivers illegal. This would do several things. 1) Republicans can offer it as a concession to Obama. They can say, "We don't think Obamacare is good for the economy, but Obama/Pelosi/Reid do (insert Pelosi's stupid claim that it'd add millions of jobs as soon as it's signed into law). Thus we're willing to make everyone who's been granted a waiver put some skin in the game, in support of Obama's chief legislative victory, in order to...
  • "Since Rick Perry Won’t Run, Governor Palin Is the Only Person in the Field Who Can Say She Vetoed-"

    07/12/2011 12:05:41 PM PDT · by LaybackLenny · 55 replies
    Conservatives4Palin ^ | July 11 2011 - 8:45 PM | Ian Lazaran
    I think it may be a good time to remind everyone that once Rick Perry announces that he’s not running for the presidency, Governor Palin will be the only one in the field who can say that she vetoed some of Obama’s stimulus package. In the unlikely event that Rick Perry enters the contest, Governor Palin will still be the only person on stage who can say that she vetoed the energy portion of Obama’s stimulus package. She didn’t just oppose Obama’s stimulus package through her words, nor did she just cast the same vote that every other moderate or...
  • LSM banking everything against Sarah Palin next week, pushing hard for Bachmann

    07/08/2011 6:33:31 AM PDT · by Friendofgeorge · 110 replies
    Opinion/mine/wearning/prediction | July 08 2011 | FriendofGeorge
    Gov Sarah Palin`s biggest week in sometime begins next week with the release of her film The Undefeated. I believe we are going to see the MSM/Rep Establishment in their biggest attack on Gov Palin, perhaps ever. They have already been pushing Michele Bachmann, but you aint seen nothing yet. The LSM has a whole slue of polls that are due to be released next week, and they are going to all say that Sarah Palin is only a memory, no longer even relevant. At the same time their polls will show Michele Bachmann way out in front...FOR SURE THESE...
  • Rep. Weiner to run for President??

    06/17/2011 6:53:29 AM PDT · by Gopher Broke · 13 replies
    I heard a rumor that embattled Rep. Weiner plans to run for President!! It is said he will tap Attorney General Eric Holder to be his VP. People cannot wait to get their hands on the new bumper stickers that say WEINER-HOLDER.......
  • With more white parents adopting black children, hair care for them is a needed lesson

    04/12/2011 7:44:38 AM PDT · by ConservativeStatement · 80 replies · 2+ views
    Chicago Tribune ^ | April 10, 2011 | Bonnie Miller Rubin
    In the African-American community, the significance of hair cannot be underestimated, a source of either self-esteem or self-doubt. So for white parents of black children, making sure their youngsters are well-coiffed is as much a priority as good nutrition and potty training. This reality came into focus recently at a sold-out workshop, "Caring for Afro-textured Hair and Skin," at the Cradle, an Evanston-based adoption agency. "People are judged by the way they look," said Julien Drouet, a white father of Lily, 3, and 10-month-old Victor, whom he adopted with his partner, Brandon Walt. "I don't agree, but if we want...
  • Cops Probe IHOP Melee Caught On Tape

    01/25/2011 1:03:25 PM PST · by safeasthebanks · 160 replies
    The Smoking Gun website ^ | 1/25/11 | Smoking Gun
    JANUARY 25--South Carolina cops are attempting to identify the participants in a wild brawl early Saturday at an International House of Pancakes, video of which has gone viral online. As seen in the below clip--which includes some cursing--the female combatants are seen punching and wrestling with each other as tables are toppled. At one point, a woman picks up a coffee pot and strikes another woman in the head while she is being pinned to a table. Later, a man is seen swinging a cane at the woman who was struck with the coffee pot. The woman, adopting a lion...
  • Priests have gone to jail for doing what that TSA screener did to that boy.

    11/21/2010 2:15:01 PM PST · by Cousin Eddie · 35 replies
    (and rightly so, for the record). Any priest that removed even some of a boy's clothes and touched his private parts would be hauled up before a court in 2 seconds. Same for a teacher. These pat downs are lunacy. Anyone who really wants to smuggle junk on board will stick the stuff in a body cavity or in the one quart bag.
  • Does the TSA enforce a Don't Ask Don't Tell (DADT) for their screeners?

    11/21/2010 4:37:55 AM PST · by central_va · 12 replies
    I wonder if the TSA has a Don't Ask Don't Tell (DADT) policy for their screeners? Or can a openly gay TSA screener do pats downs (of children, ugh)? Inquiring minds what to know....
  • Actual Time Traveler Caught on Film (no joke) See Video

    10/27/2010 7:00:53 PM PDT · by Scythian · 106 replies · 3+ views
    I have to admit I watched it several times, it is very strange indeed .... Video ...
  • Stop (you'll love this image)

    10/09/2010 1:08:09 PM PDT · by Stayfree · 12 replies · 1+ views
    Stop ^ | October 9, 2010 | Stayfree
    I didn't know that the White House Commie had such a thick skin...
  • Blinded with 'science' - Atheist's worst nightmare takes apart Hawking's 'design' flaws

    09/25/2010 8:00:30 AM PDT · by Conservative Coulter Fan · 99 replies
    WND ^ | September 24, 2010
    God didn't create the universe, Stephen Hawking says in his latest book, "A Grand Design." Rather, the renowned physicist writes, "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing." Everything – created from nothing? The assertion begged a reply from the author of "Nothing Created Everything: The Scientific Impossibility of Atheistic Evolution." "It is embarrassingly unscientific to speak of anything creating itself from nothing," said Ray Comfort, a best-selling author and acclaimed minister who's confronted and confounded some of the world's most accomplished atheists. "Common sense says that if something possessed the...
  • Obama’s Birthday Fun Lasts Five Days-Maybe He’s Really 13?

    08/10/2010 2:00:00 AM PDT · by Michael van der Galien · 18 replies
    How old is the President? Rush Limbaugh thinks August 4, the chief’s birthday, may not be correct. Okay, but what about his emotional age? Last week marked Obama’s 49th birthday. The celebration began Wednesday evening at a dinner in Chicago with Oprah Winfrey and officially ended on Sunday at the White House with a barbecue. In between he did run around to various Democratic fundraisers and gave another upbeat speech at a Ford auto plant touting his economic plan as a boon to creating jobs. With those annoying chores out of the way, he hit the golf course on Saturday...
  • Wearing high heels might make you feel sexy and powerful, but think about the future health

    08/10/2010 2:04:11 PM PDT · by Nachum · 66 replies
    Chicago Tribune ^ | 8/10/10 | Jessie Schiewe
    If there’s one thing to be learned from "Sex and the City," it’s that women love high heels. Sure, they might be painful to wear and challenging to walk in (for some of us, anyway), but as the saying goes, beauty is pain. But blisters might not be the only downside to wearing high heels. In fact, the damage might be occurring higher up on the body – in the ankle, knee and hip, according to new research being presented later this month at the annual meeting of the American Society of Biomechanics. Another key finding: The higher the heel,...
  • Tell us any experiences that you have had working in a government job.

    08/05/2010 6:53:15 PM PDT · by cradle of freedom · 69 replies
    If you have ever worked at a government job, please tell us some of your experiences good or bad.
  • Bristol Palin to Levi Johnston: 'It's Over'

    08/03/2010 1:27:11 PM PDT · by Justaham · 85 replies · 36+ views
    And just like that, they were off again. "It's over. I broke up with him," Bristol Palin tells PEOPLE exclusively of her second try at an engagement to Levi Johnston, father of her 19-month-old son Tripp. Palin, 19, says the relationship soured on July 14, the very same day they announced their marriage intentions to the world. Palin says he told her that evening he might have fathered a baby with another teenage girl. (Palin did not name the young woman, but a pregnant former girlfriend of Johnston's has since publicly denied his paternity.) In an emotional phone interview with...
  • TX: Rock-solid proof? (Fossil find may point to ID)

    08/01/2008 3:47:08 AM PDT · by yankeedame · 53 replies · 558+ views
    Mineral Wells Index ^ | July 28, 2008 | David May
    Rock-solid proof? July 28, 2008 09:49 am — By David May A slab of North Texas limestone is on track to rock the world, with its two imbedded footprints poised to make a huge impression in scientific and religious circles. The estimated 140-pound stone was recovered in July 2000 from the bank of a creek that feeds the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas, located about 53 miles south of Fort Worth. The find was made just outside Dinosaur Valley State Park, a popular destination for tourists known for its well-preserved dinosaur tracks and other fossils. The limestone contains...
  • Four-legged Creatures Emerged Earlier than Thought

    01/09/2010 10:05:58 AM PST · by null and void · 28 replies · 518+ views
    Scientific Computing ^ | 1/9/10 | Raphael G. Satter
    The water-dwelling ancestors of modern-day mammals, reptiles and birds emerged onto land millions of years earlier than previously believed, researchers report. A set of fossilized footprints show that the first tetrapods — a term applied to any four-footed animal with a spine — were treading open ground 397 million years ago, well before scientists thought they existed. An expert unconnected with the research said the find would force experts to reconsider a critical period in evolution when sea-based vertebrates took their first steps toward becoming dinosaurs, mammals and — eventually — human beings. "It blows the whole story out of the water, so to speak," said Jenny...