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The Real Reason for the Tragedy of the Titanic (Government Regulation)
WSJ ^ | April 12, 2012 | Chris Berg

Posted on 04/14/2016 10:15:40 AM PDT by NRx

In the 1958 Titanic film "A Night to Remember," Captain Smith is consulting with the shipbuilder Thomas Andrews. After the two realize that the Titanic will sink and that there are not enough lifeboats for even half those aboard, Smith quietly says "I don't think the Board of Trade regulations visualized this situation, do you?"

In the run-up to the 100th anniversary of this tragedy this weekend, there's been a lot of commentary about who and what were to blame. Left unsaid is that the Titanic's lifeboat capacity is probably the most iconic regulatory failure of the 20th century.

The ship had carried 2,224 people on its maiden voyage but could only squeeze 1,178 people into its lifeboats. There were a host of other failures, accidents, and mishaps which led to the enormous loss of life, but this was the most crucial one: From the moment the Titanic scraped the iceberg, the casualties were going to be unprecedented.

Yet the Titanic was fully compliant with all marine laws. The British Board of Trade required all vessels above 10,000 metric tonnes (11,023 U.S. tons) to carry 16 lifeboats. The White Star Line ensured that the Titanic exceeded the requirements by four boats. But the ship was 46,328 tonnes. The Board of Trade hadn't updated its regulations for nearly 20 years.

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TOPICS: History; Travel
KEYWORDS: itwassadwhenthe; titanic; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 04/14/2016 10:15:40 AM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

Ref” Post 1...a picture of the USA just before Obama’s inauguration.


2 posted on 04/14/2016 10:18:15 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: NRx

Then, as now, no regulator lost their job. The responsible government bodies updated their procedures and blamed the operator.


3 posted on 04/14/2016 10:18:36 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: NRx

http://strangeandcreepy.com/alternative-theories-sinking-titanic/ Real reason is it wasn’t the Titanic.


4 posted on 04/14/2016 10:19:23 AM PDT by libsdrinkkoolaid
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To: NRx

The real reason for the Titanic tragedy was not enough rudder for that size ship. I don’t believe any regulations addressed that issue.


5 posted on 04/14/2016 10:21:09 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: NRx

What a BS article. Ismay and White Star could of on their volition added the lifeboats beyond the obsolete regulations. They did not want the lifeboats for aesthetic reasons and used the excuse that regulations at that time did not require them. I thought according to the WSJ the market could take care of safety but in this case White Star was so safe with its water tight compartments they would not the lifeboats to take everyone off at the same time.


6 posted on 04/14/2016 10:21:30 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: NRx

The reason for the lack of lifeboats has been known for decades.

The sad part was that there were empty seats that went unused in the lifeboats.


7 posted on 04/14/2016 10:25:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: libsdrinkkoolaid

That is one of the most risible and thoroughly debunked conspiracy theories I have come across.


8 posted on 04/14/2016 10:27:11 AM PDT by NRx (It's sad when there is no one running for President that I can vote for with a clear conscience.)
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To: 5thGenTexan
That was a big part of it. For a fascinating read, buy the copy of the congressional hearings which were republished about the time the DiCaprio movie came out.

One of the key witnesses who worked for the White Star Line tried to get off the rescue vessel dressed as a woman when it entered New York harbor. The caught him anyway and hauled him before the hearings as they did with several others who didn't try to evade congress.

It was a joint committee, hearings begin within a month of the sinking while witness accounts were still fresh. Excellent, probing, fact finding questions and little political grandstanding. It will put our later versions of congress to shame.

Anyone reading those accounts will come out knowing just about all the facts related to the sinking, but an appreciation with the high standards we used to have for people elected to congress.

9 posted on 04/14/2016 10:29:17 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: NRx

I always thought running in to the iceberg played a big part in the sinking.

Seriously, wasn’t the steel very poor quality as well? Very low carbon IIRC..??..


10 posted on 04/14/2016 10:30:22 AM PDT by IamConservative (There is no greater threat to our freedoms than Bipartisanship.)
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To: NRx

Thank God it was unsinkable.


11 posted on 04/14/2016 10:32:26 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: NRx

You seem to get history written and rewritten concerning this event (more theories than you can shake a stick at). The bizarre one I know of is that the boat that sank really was not the “Titanic”, but the “Olympic” that was damaged in the maiden voyage and sunk to claim the insurance.


12 posted on 04/14/2016 10:33:12 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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To: IamConservative

Poor rivets also IIRC?


13 posted on 04/14/2016 10:36:13 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: OttawaFreeper

I believe that’s what the link at post #4 is suggesting.


14 posted on 04/14/2016 10:37:27 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: kalee

For later


15 posted on 04/14/2016 10:41:33 AM PDT by kalee
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To: IamConservative

I once heard that if they hadn’t thrown it into reverse, but merely slowed down and turned, that they may have done a better job at avoiding the iceberg. The throwing it in reverse made it jam for a few precious minutes instead of just slowing down first and then going in reverse. I have no idea of that’s true or not.


16 posted on 04/14/2016 10:45:26 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: NRx

Can’t blame it on the government. They did not need to be told that there should be enough lifeboats for everyone on board.


17 posted on 04/14/2016 10:48:55 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: 5thGenTexan

no bow thrusters, 360 degree stern propulsor pods, roll-stabilizers, radar, sat internet and television, glass wipers on bridge windows, etc.

these were contributory factors also.


18 posted on 04/14/2016 10:49:25 AM PDT by telstar12.5 (...always bring gunships to a gun fight...)
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To: 5thGenTexan

The lookouts in the crows’ nest had no binoculars even though there were binoculars on board which no one could locate. When they spotted the iceberg it was already too late to avoid.

What if Titanic had held steady and smashed into the iceberg head on?

Was the rudder problem later addressed on Olympic and Britannic, Titanic’s sister ships?


19 posted on 04/14/2016 10:50:21 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: NRx

Regulations and codes tend to be minimum standards (or, in some cases, nothing more than make-work for unions). What prevented the White Star Line from making a few calculations of their own, and adding more lifeboats above and beyond what was regulated?


20 posted on 04/14/2016 10:56:17 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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