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Cruz: The One We Waited For... and then Rejected
Vanity | 4/19/2016 | pgyanke

Posted on 04/19/2016 11:49:04 AM PDT by pgyanke


Credit to Pookie18

I don't know about you but I'm sick and tired of this election season. FR has turned into a bickering board of bitter bubbleheads, it seems. Where we used to see Ted Cruz as a principled conservative... we now attack anyone who likes him as a "Cruzite" or "Cruzombie"... what happened?

First, there was the attack against him that he played dirty tricks in Iowa by relaying an MSM message that Carson was leaving the race. What would you do? If you are in a popularity contest against multiple opponents, wouldn't you make sure that the votes of an ideological brother weren't wasted on a failed effort? It's a logical reasoning... and you don't have days to debate it in committee, you have minutes and seconds before votes are tallied. That Cruz apologized at all for this news media-inspired fiasco shows him to be the bigger man.

Then what? He's following the rules and gathering delegates? I thought we wanted someone who knows how the game is played and can win elections... silly me. The Trump supporters don't seem to realize that DT is not the closer he claims to be. He is riding a wave of populism but is losing on the rules because he is disorganized and unprepared.

Saying all of this doesn't mean I am anti-Trump... I am anti-Dem whether the Dem is Hillary, Bernie, or Biden. Doesn't matter to me. If Trump is the eventual nominee, he will get my vote to stop the Dem machine's destruction of our great country.

In the primary, though, I want the most conservative in the race who has shown he knows how to win. That man is Ted Cruz. Why he is slimed on a conservative board is beyond me... and it saddens me. Maybe he isn't your guy... fine. Why does he have to be slimed? If he does manage to pull out an upset... what have you accomplished but hurting our best chance for conservative restoration in this country?


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KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; cruz; vanity
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To: deport

And the stupid call him a consistent conservative...


241 posted on 04/19/2016 2:28:49 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: lonestar67

“Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen and eligible to be President. Multiple authorities have considered your argument and found you are wrong.

You and several others consciously choose to ignore the conclusions and evidence in favor or emotion and feelings of making america great again.”

The dems will hammer it like a Doberman with a soup bone! They may not win the issue, but they will never let it go. They will make sure everyone knows about it just to create uncertainty.


242 posted on 04/19/2016 2:30:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: markman46

Religious liberty is in pretty bad shape as it is but we would have far less religious liberty without Cruz’s win on the ten commandments case.

Being able to display Christian content ideas in public would be nearly impossible.

Cruz’s arguments in Heller were critical to keeping gun rights as they are and the loss of Heller would have been a huge loss to the second amendment right.

Cruz’s win in Medellin means that international law does not Trump US or state law. Had that not been won huge aspects of radical globalism would obliterate private property rights and almost everything we know about unique American civic differences including innocent before proven guilty would be in jeopardy.


243 posted on 04/19/2016 2:32:08 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I really don’t see why they would.

It is somewhat consistent with the right to do this because they did that against Obama.

The left mocked and ridiculed this argument and to some extent they would be confronted for the inconsistency more than right wing critics.


244 posted on 04/19/2016 2:33:41 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: RitaOK
Everything Cruz is doing to TRUMP in the suppressing, rejecting and replacing of Trump supporters to be his delegates, Cruz is doing to the people who put TRUMP where he is, at the head of the pack, smoking the field, and doing it with no theft.

Telling lie after lie about Trump on national tv and we're supposed to embrace the guy???

And then rather than supporting Trump as he appeared to in the beginning he slid over to the other side...Trouble is, he was there all the time...Just part of the scheme...

If Cruz wins, the GOPe wins again...Same ole same ole...

245 posted on 04/19/2016 2:37:29 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump/Kasich...A winning team...)
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To: Laserman

Neil Bush is a member of the campaign. Lindsey Graham (McCain’s best friend) held a fundraiser with Cruz. Robert Mercer, one who defines “The Establishment”, is a huge Cruz supporter.

I’ll give you one big fact. Cruz has walked away from the topic of Amnesty. Now, why would that be?

A couple of more facts; Senator Cruz has very little in the way of Conservative accomplishments. He has no “executive experience”. His career has been that of an Attorney (both public and private) and now US Senator.

I’m certainly not telling you whom to vote for, respectfully, that’s your business. I’m telling you I was a Cruz supporter who has changed his mind. I no longer see him as an outsider, just more of the same.


246 posted on 04/19/2016 2:38:10 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: tacticalogic
Ted, the sitting Senator from Oil Texas, is sooooo principaled when he takes a stand against ethanol in gasoline. Wonder which blend he used when he went to deliver Teddy Bears and Soccer Balls to illegal immigrants?

People who think anyone who is sitting Senator from Texas could say anything but get rid of ethanol don't know which way is up. How about Ted's principled stand on queers marrying one another?

Oil companies have money, NY queers have money, Ted's stand is obvious in both cases.

247 posted on 04/19/2016 2:38:27 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: optiguy

‘Trump tried to hire Jeff Roe.’

Link?


248 posted on 04/19/2016 2:38:43 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbonok&)
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To: pgyanke

It is becoming clearly obvious. Soon we will be seeing formal requests, it will need to be organized and backed up by legal advocates, a demand for an audit on request by the base Republican registered members to determine and publically document why millions of voters were denied their voice and vote and full disclosure of every single delegate’s actual interests they were working for, any and all directives they were given from Republican Party leaders, what if any compensation each delegate received for their allegiance to a candidate, any fidelity purchased by candidate organizations to have a delegate vote other than the votes of the election process, any machinations by Party officials to thwart the vote or manipulate the final result whether by the so-called rules or not, which rules allowed the votes of the base to be changed to another candidate who did not receive those votes, how broad were such, either designed or stealth methods, towards changing an outcome and how expansive were they practiced, how aware were the voters of such rules or violations of rules that disenfranchised any vote and what was done to communicate this to the voters, were rules never revealed to the voters or were there practices to change their vote by means of manipulation of rules, who were all the rule makers by name and whether they were paid to do so and who paid them or gave them political, financial or business favors, whether taxes were paid on such benefits or compensations, and the complete history of their involvement and delegations going back over their entire history of such since their first involvement in previous elections.

There is nothing more sacred to America than the vote. Corruptions to the process cannot and should not be tolerated anymore. This audit also needs to investigate the activities of some candidates themselves, and first needs to begin with a probe into the activities of the candidate Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina.


249 posted on 04/19/2016 2:40:24 PM PDT by ShivaFan
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To: Responsibility2nd

You can repeat it all you like, a lot of people have made up their mind that the facts indicate his is likely not to be a NBC.

It is pointless to argue it anymore, short of a court looking and an releasing the documents that would change these folks minds, if such documents exist. The voting over the next week will let folks know where Trump and Cruz stand with regards to support, on this and many other issues.


250 posted on 04/19/2016 2:40:41 PM PDT by Frederick303
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To: Sybeck1

Can’t you tell by now, that Dr. Carson is book smart but common sense not so much. Someone told him he should be outraged so he was.


251 posted on 04/19/2016 2:41:17 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Rashputin

Was that supposed to explain how to reconcile the original intent of the Constitution with Trump’s promise to keep the EPA and the ethanol mandate? It looks more like a an attempt to deflect the question and just keep talking about Cruz to avoid answering it.


252 posted on 04/19/2016 2:42:09 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MamaB

Sorry, MamaB, but I see it as just the opposite.


253 posted on 04/19/2016 2:43:14 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Laserman

I listen to the guy and hear his lies with my own ears. What more “investigation” do I need?
I can’t stand the guy any more and hope I don’t have to listen to his voice ever again, let alone in a State of the Union speech.
You must think I’m incapable of thinking for myself. DId I mention TRump?
No, I just expressed my disappointment in Cruz. Hang around him long enough and I suspect you’ll become disappointed as well. I just hope it’s not too late when you do.


254 posted on 04/19/2016 2:44:04 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: the_doc
This website has become a mess, not a thoughtful discussion forum for talking about what our Republic really needs.

What we don't need is a candidate who has flip-flopped continuously thru out the election and is sponsored and funded by the GOPe...

Being a conservative anti-America globalist does not give Cruz any points in my book...

255 posted on 04/19/2016 2:44:35 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump/Kasich...A winning team...)
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To: RedWulf

I’m sure you meant to say how often Cruz is “accused” of doing the wrong thing. You know, as in “it’s all over twitter”.


256 posted on 04/19/2016 2:46:14 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: tacticalogic
Bunk.

You wanna pretend leaving the EPA mandate in place is somehow on par with making Senators whores for sale in a national auction rather than servants of the State Legislature then you explain why it took a Constitutional Amendment to change way Senators were chosen and didn't take a Constitutional Amendment to create an out of control EPA.

You're the one trying to compare apples to oranges which is one of the favorite "principled" games Cruzbots play.

257 posted on 04/19/2016 2:47:03 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Laserman

Does Jeff Sessions support touch back amnesty?


258 posted on 04/19/2016 2:48:37 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbonok&)
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To: Laserman
You claim Cruz is somehow engaged with the GOPe, yet you have no proof of this. He is still reviled by McConnell and the rest of the establishment in DC. I think that is a good thing.

Oh c'mon...It's public knowledge he is funded by the Club for Growth and the Bushes and Romney...You can't get any more GOPe than that...

259 posted on 04/19/2016 2:50:10 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump/Kasich...A winning team...)
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To: Laserman
Well said. And I wonder why the Trumpets don’t care that Trump has not released his tax returns?? Hmmmm...

Because we don't care...It's unimportant and just a distraction...

260 posted on 04/19/2016 2:52:21 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump/Kasich...A winning team...)
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