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Insiders: Clinton would crush Trump in November
Politico ^ | April 29, 2016 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 04/29/2016 9:48:36 AM PDT by Zakeet

In the swing states that matter most in the presidential race, Donald Trump doesn’t have a prayer against Hillary Clinton in the general election.

That's according to top operatives, strategists and activists in 10 battleground states who participated in this week's POLITICO Caucus. Nearly 90 percent of them said Clinton would defeat Trump in their home states in a November match-up.

Republicans are only slightly more bullish on Trump’s prospects than Democrats: More than three-quarters of GOP insiders expect Clinton to best the Republican front-runner in a general-election contest in their respective states. Among Democrats, the belief is nearly universal: 99 percent of surveyed said will Clinton will beat Trump.

In three of the biggest swing states—Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida—Republicans were particularly downbeat about the prospect of a Trump-Clinton contest.

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To: cherry
....I wonder what his reward will be....

What reward would a billionaire require? Aren't you stretching a bit now?

61 posted on 04/29/2016 10:48:30 AM PDT by uncitizen (PST! Patriots Support Trump - Join Today!)
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To: Mr. K

I see a few Bernie signs in my Republican small (upstate NY) town.

I see almost no Trump signs.

I think that’s because the Bernie people are confident their well-behaved neighbors won’t vandalize their signs. The pro-Trump people can’t depend on that.


62 posted on 04/29/2016 10:50:11 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Zakeet; All
We’re getting mixed messages on Hillary’s prospects.
Democratic Strategist: Trump Will Beat Hillary Like 'A Baby Seal'

Trump likely knows how to deal with misguided people like Hillary.

63 posted on 04/29/2016 10:50:29 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Dr. Sivana
I’m not even a Trump fan, but HRC is SUCH a weak opponent

Obama was an easy opponent in 2008 AND in 2012, and the GOP found a way to make sure that they didn't or couldn't attack his weak spots, and handed him the victory. The GOP and RNC aren't exactly in Trump's corner, and many GOP Congressmen have already said that they would prefer Hillary to Trump. Trump will have the DNC, RNC, media, and GOP against him, as well as his own past and his own big mouth, AND Hillary's Chicago corruption machine. He will lose to Hillary in November. I'd bet a $100 donation to FR on it (not that FR will be allowed to exist much longer after JAN 2017).

64 posted on 04/29/2016 10:59:27 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: uncitizen
...I wonder what his reward will be....
What reward would a billionaire require?

Yeah, billionaires are famous for dropping their financial and ego motives once they become billionaires. ROFLMAO.

Do Trump Freepers even read their own posts?

65 posted on 04/29/2016 11:01:46 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Zakeet

And these would be many of the same “insiders” who predicted that Hillary would defeat Obama and that she was the “inevitable” nominee, right?

Forgive the source, but it is pretty comprehensive:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/4/652796/-


66 posted on 04/29/2016 11:02:08 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Zakeet
I believe it....

Conservatives are too divided over Cruz and Trump. IMO, one side wants business and Americans first, the other evangelical Christianity and religion first. Cruzers think Trump is scattered brained and un-Chistian. Trumpsters think Cruz is a just another Obama.
67 posted on 04/29/2016 11:02:29 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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To: Zakeet
2016 US Presidential Election - Next President of the United States

Odds as of April 28 at Bovada

Hillary Clinton -340

Donald Trump +280

Bernie Sanders +2500

Ted Cruz +2500

John Kaisch +10000


68 posted on 04/29/2016 11:06:13 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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To: Teacher317

Sure teacher, all billionaires are egotistical and will lose an election on purpose just so they can get the attention of running for president. And you imply that I’M the stupid one......


69 posted on 04/29/2016 11:06:57 AM PDT by uncitizen (PST! Patriots Support Trump - Join Today!)
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To: Teacher317
the GOP found a way to make sure that they didn't or couldn't attack his weak spots, and handed him the victory.

Obama was certainly a stronger candidate than HRC. Q.E.D.

besides his beating her in a head-to-head, he is a MUCH better speaker, MUCH more charismatic, was not defined for the general masses, and had an automatic melanin enhanced minority turnout machine built into his skin.

Also, I said that HRC was very weak. Romney was remarkably weaker still, as the GOP was determined to pick the ONLY Republican in the whole country who could not plausibly run against Obamacare. That was so bad, it was skillful.

Either Trump or Cruz is willing to attack the opponent as needed, unlike McCain or Romney. Look at Bush '88 to see how its done.
70 posted on 04/29/2016 11:07:56 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: Zakeet

The pundits and insiders just can’t seem to realize, the conventional wisdom is dead... they think if its a Trump V Clinton election that the election will be like most of the last 30 years, where both parties just cede 40 states to one another and fight primarily over the same 10 or so states mainly over who can have the better GOTV efforts there......

That is not what’s going to happen, and that is why their analysis is so wrong. They just can’t accept what is going on.


71 posted on 04/29/2016 11:08:19 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Dr. Sivana

Hillary stands no chance in the fall, anyone telling you that is LYING. They are saying it to prop up her base and keep them engaged, she has no shot at winning the general election. McCain had a better shot at winning than Hillary does.


72 posted on 04/29/2016 11:10:43 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Zakeet
With all the data on the Clintons - don't get me started - going back to Watergate with Hillary and both of them since the Arkansas governor days, how can any patriotic American even think about voting for Hillary?

Let's hope Jim Comey is the patriot everyone says he is. We shall see.

73 posted on 04/29/2016 11:19:47 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Zakeet
Not. This is a GOP sweep year for the presidency due to structural factors. Any plausible GOP nominee will beat ANY Democratic nominee, with the GOP getting 55%+ of the popular vote and 400+ electoral votes in November.

The structural factors have been the GOP sweep of Congressional, state and local elections in the 2010, 2012 and 2014 elections, to the point where it would be difficult for the GOP to win any more such offices, plus that the economy and jobs have plain sucked the whole time. Historically this has always resulted in an overwhelming turnover of the Presidency.

Hillary is arguably the worst candidate the Democrats can put up because she is so obviously the bosses' choice. See this article:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/27/democratic-strategist-trump-will-beat-hillary-like-a-baby-seal/

It's not so much that a nomination of Hillary will alienate the white working class outside the South from the Democrats (about 20% of the electorate) as that this will make the alienation indelible, on the scale and permanence of how the California GOP alienated Hispanics in 1994. This was due to a combination of a disastrous strategic mistake by then California GOP Governor Pete Wilson, and inspired + entirely proper exploitation by the Democrats in 1995.

My father was one of the two California Democratic politicians who orchestrated the latter - the other was his old friend Leon Panetta, who was then President Bill Clinton's chief of staff. Pop told me about this as he was doing it because he knew that would drive me nuts. ANY GOP nominee for California statewide office since has started with a million vote deficit since.

It looks like a Hillary v. Trump contest will do something very similar to the white working class vote outside the South. The least of this will be a GOP electoral vote lock on the Midwest for a generation or more.

74 posted on 04/29/2016 11:21:03 AM PDT by Thud
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To: Zakeet

“according to top operatives, strategists and activists in 10 battleground states who participated in this week’s POLITICO Caucus”

THE ELITES HAVE SPOKEN. NO NEED FOR THE ELECTION.


75 posted on 04/29/2016 11:21:39 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Zakeet

You bet! lol


76 posted on 04/29/2016 11:30:51 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (GOPe/MSM - "When we want your opinion, we will give it to you)
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To: cherry

Trump’s reward will be the presidency, commander and chief, and leader of the free world. That’s all.


77 posted on 04/29/2016 11:35:50 AM PDT by Rad_J
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To: Zakeet
Before the primary started the conventional wisdom was:

* Clinton would essentially run unopposed and Sanders would get nowhere near her.
* Trump's campaign would immediatly implode and disappear or at least Trump has a hard ceiling of 25%

Instead:

* Sanders kept edging up on Clinton througout the campaign.
* Trump not only did not implode his "ceiling" kept going up....even as the supposed experts kept adjusting his demise like AGW alarmists adjust computer models to support a failed hypothesis.

Trump is about 7.3 percent behind Clinton in a hypothetical matchup per RealClearPolitics. That will land someplace else after the conventions depending on which side unifies better.

Then will come the first debate....

At that point we will see a condescending Clinton with plastic battle cries against a charismatic likable billionaire who unapologetically loves his country and wants to do work hard to make it strong. All the math and analysis done in April and May will be in ruins. There will be a preference cascade in Trump's favor and he will win in a landslide.

78 posted on 04/29/2016 11:52:11 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Zakeet

Well, in one crucial swing state,Florida, George Soros counts the votes out of the country and reports aback an uncheckable total. I believe Mrs. Bill will get the most recorded votes and “win” the election and quite possible get the House and Senate, too, and of course will have the USSC totally at her service. We are looking at the prospect of 1930s USSR within two years or so.


79 posted on 04/29/2016 11:52:24 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Zakeet
Insiders: Trump has peaked - POLITICO Apr 27, 2016

'President Bush is predicting that Hillary Clinton will win the 2008 Democratic presidential primary' September 24, 2007

Donald Trump has already peaked | Washington Examiner

Trump momentum fading? | Yahoo Finance

Jeb: Donald Trump is not a serious candidate | MSNBC

80 posted on 04/29/2016 12:06:53 PM PDT by Daaave ("What would you do with a brain if you had one?" Dorothy)
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