Posted on 05/02/2016 1:18:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Just saw that episode a few weeks ago. Yeah, I’m way behind because I only see reruns. They are at about 2010 and early 2011 right now.
He's more like the BLACK KNIGHT, in MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL, than anything in PRINCESS BRIDE!
Counting on a win, in a contested convention, on the second or third or fourth, or 100th ballot is akin to believing. back in 2008, that Obama was going to unify this nation, bring peace to the world, and lower the rising seas. ;^)
I’m going to stick up for 2DV just a little bit. This is a (conservative) political forum for the discussion of differing points of view. It is important to know what is being said. It is not useful to any of us to just parrot what we want to believe. Alas, Ted Cruz is still there, not as a viable candidate, but as a spoiler, and it is helpful to know that. We just read that yet another state convention (Arizona) chose a full slate of Cruz delegates instead of allowing a slate of delegates that reflected the fact that Trump won the state. There is a problem here and we need to face it. The delegates can change the rules of the convention, and if the delegates are packed with Cruz sympathizers they may very likely elect to do so, changing the rules in such a way as to allow Cruz’ name to be placed in nomination, refusing to seat delegates won in open primary states, etc. Ted Cruz is still a menace, and can still thwart the will of the voters and ensure the nomination of himself or an establishment candidate such as Jeb Bush.
It is important to be aware of what is going on, and the fact that 2DV posts these things is helpful, albeit distressing. More than anything though, I wish Cruz and Kasich, would do the right thing, respect the will of the people and withdraw to stem the damage being done to our party and to all of our candidates.
Been here quite a bit longer than you Zoomie.
How does Trump not get to 1,237 if Cruz steps aside?
For that matter, how does Trump not get to 1,237 if Cruz doesn't step aside?
Either way, what's your logic?
It's just a matter of unifying the party sooner, rather than later, at this point.
Sooner is much better than later.
Ted Cruz is a caricature. If the situation with Donald Trump was reversed, the outcry for Trump to step aside would be widespread and deafening.
Ted Cruz already criticized Kasich for not dropping out once he didn't have a path to 1,237. Well, Cruz doesn't have a path either, now, so now he just keeps moving the goalposts. He'll continue to do that, but it will never make any difference.
Where I come from, that's called rank hypocrisy.
Ted Cruz is acting the GOPe spoiler, plain and simple, and he won't even accomplish that.
Cruz is blowing his future Presidential aspirations at this point. His current aspirations are already a dumpster fire.
It's been awkward to even watch him for awhile now, and it's just getting worse...
Vote Trump
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Oh I can’t do it. Even though I am heartless, I can’t do it.
Is there such a thing as hair cancer?
His threads are lively, gotta give credit where credit is due.
Yes, it does!
I always stop reading when I come across a line like this. Marco Rubio has no delegates because he suspended his campaign. All of his delegates have become unbound as soon as he suspended.
From Republican Party Rules of Procedures - Revised September 25, 2015:
RULE 10 – Selection of Delegates and Alternate Delegates to the Republican National ConventionB. All Delegates and Alternate Delegates Awarded to Statewide Winner of Florida Presidential Preference Primary
The Republican presidential candidate receiving the highest number of statewide votes at the Florida Presidential Preference Primary shall be awarded all delegates and alternate delegates to the Republican National Convention. The delegates and alternate delegates shall be elected as prescribed by Rule 10(D). The Chairman of the Republican Party of Florida, or his or her designee, shall be bound to count and cast all delegate votes for that presidential candidate during the first three convention ballots unless the convention rules state that delegates are bound for more than three ballots. If the candidate to whom the delegate votes are bound releases the delegates or withdraws his or her candidacy, then the delegate votes will not be bound to any candidate. No delegate, other than the Chairman of the Republican Party of Florida, or his or her designee, shall be entitled to cast any vote on his or her own behalf until the fourth convention ballot.
I know that Rubio has "suspended" and not "withdrawn," but then RNC convention rule 16(a)(2) says this:
(2) For any manner of binding or allocating delegates under these rules, if a delegate (i) casts a vote for a presidential candidate at the national convention inconsistent with the delegate’s obligation under state law or state party rule, (ii) nominates or demonstrates support under Rule No. 40 for a presidential candidate other than the one to whom the delegate is bound or allocated under state law or state party rule, or (iii) fails in some other way to carry out the delegate’s affirmative duty under state law or state party rule to cast a vote at the national convention for a particular presidential candidate, the delegate shall be deemed to have concurrently resigned as a delegate and the delegate’s improper vote or nomination shall be null and void. Thereafter the secretary of the convention shall record the delegate’s vote or nomination in accordance with the delegate’s obligation under state law or state party rule. This subsection does not apply to delegates who are bound to a candidate who has withdrawn his or her candidacy, suspended or terminated his or her campaign, or publicly released his or her delegates.
This subsection is about enforcing state binding rules. It says at the top that a delegate who does not vote as the state directed them to will be discharged, and their vote will be recorded as the state initially directed.
Then it says that the subsection does not apply to delegates whose candidate suspended their campaign, meaning they will NOT be penalized for unbound voting. Since Rubio suspended, this rule says that the penalty no longer applies. If the penalty no longer applies, then delegates bound to Rubio are free to vote for any candidate in nomination without penalty, regardless that the state rules only say "withdrawn" and not "suspended."
-PJ
Hair cancer is the worst.
If we're measuring dicks, mine's longer.
The party will not unify behind either Trump or Cruz. Exhibit A is freerepublic. If the candidates cannot unify, the party won't either. The benefactor of strife on the GOP side is Hillary. Trump and Cruz are not a threat to the First, Second, or Tenth Amendments. Hillary is.
Furthermore, unless Trump and Cruz somehow unify either before or at the convention, the GOPe will install one of their show ponies like Jeb, Romney, or Kasich. 1237 is not guaranteed for any GOP candidate.
Never Hillary!
If you don't like the thread topic, don't click it. Don't simply attempt to remove a poster from the forum due to your “intolerance”.
It would really suck to have everyone on FR think the same thing. Groupthink is not a valued asset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV9p348boM0
I like him as well, he keeps us all educated on what is being said, where, and by whom, etc. and he’s “anybody but Hillary” :)
“The political vultures are already picking at the scraps left from Ted’s dead campaign.”
The stench of death has attracted them to the corpse. Yet, like a ghost who doesn’t realize that its life has ended, Ted stands there, defiantly fighting a battle that is over.
Sorry, but I firmly believe that YOU ARE WRONG. Seems to me there are, at the very least, 6.8 million people that LIKE Cruz.
“Ted Cruz is a good American.”
Both assertions are debatable.
That's why Ted Cruz should throw his support behind Trump, sooner rather than later, instead of running around telling lies about the man, which is all he can do nowadays. Ted Cruz has no principles that I can see. That's what he now projects to the vast majority of the GOP electorate.
Vote Trump
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