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This of course doesn't change the fact that Angela Merkel is a fool and the worst European leader since WWII, and she's rightfully being crushed in the German elections and humiliated by her people. But a lot of clouds have silver linings I guess, and this is one of them. I saw this in my last business trip to Europe when I was shuttling between a lot of very different countries-- Germany, France, Austria, Hungary, Italy, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands and up in Scandinavia-- but the one thing they all had in common was the churches were filled like I'd never seen before, and the big majority in many cases were the refugees and migrants converting everywhere you looked. Syrians, Iraqis, Egyptians, Afghans and Iranians converting, by some of the census accounts tens of thousands of new converts every single week. Curiously enough, in Sweden and many of the German refugee centers almost all the Iraqis and most of the Syrian refugees were Christians or the Yazids to begin with-- it's funny in a way, but the Christian refugees in Sweden and Finland were actually the most vocal about keeping the Somalis and Eritreans out, and were apparently the main lobbying force behind those governments recent decisions to kick out their Muslims. But now even the former Muslims from places like Afghanistan and Iran are converting too, in huge numbers.

I talked to a couple of the pastors because of course the locals naturally had questions about whether some of the conversions were just a way to stay and get benefits. (The deportations have been ramping way up.) But the pastors were pretty clear that almost every one is sincere-- they're turning away from Islam because they know ISIS and the jihadis aren't just Muslim "extremists" but based in the hateful ideology that's all over in Islam itself, and they want no part of it. The converts esp in Germany, Spain, Portugal, France and Italy take pride in working and not taking benefits, and a bunch of the have even gone back in trips to their home countries to convert Muslims to Christian denominations in the Middle East itself, which with all that risk there is probably the best proof of being sincere about it.

If anything the contrast should make us even angrier about the betrayals of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, because Obama's refugee policy has been to deliberately import the hard-core Muslim jihadis into the US that stay Muslim. Obama's refugee surge has actually focused on bringing in Muslim fighters from Syria and Iraq, on the stupid excuse that they've been fighting as US allies. Plus Obama has been focused especially on importing massive numbers of Somalis, Sudanese and people from Mali, who are notorious for being hard-core Muslims and Islamists. The irony here is that despite Merkel's stupidity, the local officials in Europe have actually done a pretty good job of giving top preference to the Christians and non-Muslims as well as the Muslims who want to leave Islam and are disgusted with ISIS. Whereas Obama has staffed his "refugee" office with minions who are deliberately importing Muslim jihadists from the refugee camps in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey and Iraq, because for Obama, the real enemy is traditional America. And of course he's being helped the RINO GOPe traitors as well as the corrupt cheap labor plutocrats like the Chamber of Commerce, Mark Zuckerberg, Sheldon Adelson and Bill Gates. Which is why we need a real opposition with a spine, not quislings like Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, John McCain, Jeff Flake, Kelly Ayotte, Lindsey Graham, Orrin Hatch, Roger Wicker, Ted Cruz and the other backstabbers.

1 posted on 07/21/2016 10:19:10 AM PDT by Javeth
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To: Javeth

Taquiya or conversion to christ?

If they eat the Ham Salad at the church social, then conversion...


2 posted on 07/21/2016 10:20:22 AM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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I don’t believe this story unless they are doing because they are getting something extra from the system


3 posted on 07/21/2016 10:20:39 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Javeth

Original Christians were Jews who converted. The next wave of European Christians were pagans who converted.


4 posted on 07/21/2016 10:21:37 AM PDT by sagar
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From Iran, maybe. From Syria, a probable ploy to get under the radar.


6 posted on 07/21/2016 10:24:00 AM PDT by arthurus
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Some of them actually DO convert to Christianity. I know of at least one Lebanese Pastors. Let’s face it, we will be forced to accept whatever immigration policy our government allows. My hope is enough Muslims do turn to Christianity so that they become a benefit to their host countries, not just an economic drain or an ongoing source of physical threat.


7 posted on 07/21/2016 10:25:27 AM PDT by lee martell
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Another interesting little tid-bit, for some reason the Syrians in those churches in Germany, France and Sweden at least are hard to tell apart from the locals, practically every one of them had blue, green or light-brown eyes and blondish or light-brown hair. That’s in fact how I first found out about this, I went into one of the churches and struck up a conversation with people who I thought were local Germans but their accent sounded very different, when they told me they were Syrians (plus a bunch of Iranians and Iraqis who also looked a lot more European than I thought). I’m just curious because I haven’t done much business in the Middle East, and the little I’ve done has been in the Gulf countries, like in Dubai where the Arabs really do look very different and non European. Whereas it seems like the Syrians, Iranians and the Lebanese esp., plus at least a bunch of the Iraqis are constantly saying they’re totally different from the Arabs in the Gulf, seems like they not only look European but consider themselves European, like some European country that got stuck in the Middle East. I admit it was an eye-opener, I don’t understand it but it was interesting to see.


9 posted on 07/21/2016 10:29:58 AM PDT by Javeth
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This is a trick that Muslims do. They are told to lie for allah.


19 posted on 07/21/2016 10:45:35 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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I don’t see any benefit they’d receive by lying. Islam is the protected faith in Europe and Christianity is the attacked religion.


21 posted on 07/21/2016 10:46:49 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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Question is, regarding the refugees who are sincere about converting, are those European churches still Christian enough to consider these to be authentic conversions?


23 posted on 07/21/2016 11:00:28 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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Perhaps they should be required to burn a koran and eat a ham sandwich just as a test.


26 posted on 07/21/2016 11:23:02 AM PDT by lafroste
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Assuming that these are real conversions, this throws a wrench into self hating SJW politicians plans to destroy Western culture, where the Lord decides “you think you’re going to diminish the Church this way? I’ve got other plans, now watch the Holy Spirit do this!”
One could hope and pray.


37 posted on 07/21/2016 12:41:02 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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Thank you for that report. Prayers up.


41 posted on 07/21/2016 1:05:25 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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If they “convert” to Christianity, it would put them in mortal peril to be returned to the Middle East. Thus they can claim asylum.


50 posted on 07/21/2016 4:15:29 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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I've not heard of many people running away from Iran.....

While I know that probably thousands of Iranians...are not happy living under the regime.

Iran once was very pro-western....

Glad the family escaped....if it's true.

54 posted on 07/21/2016 6:49:10 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FUBAR / SNAFU)
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Really????


57 posted on 07/22/2016 4:47:39 PM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: Javeth

Trust, but verify


58 posted on 07/22/2016 4:48:47 PM PDT by truth_seeker (#NeverHillary#NeeverBernie)
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