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Dad Rock: Beatles' 'Revolver' album turns 50
USA Today - Link only | July 29th, 2016 | Patrick Foster and Jim Lenahan

Posted on 07/29/2016 12:41:59 PM PDT by Mariner

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2016/07/29/dad-rock-beatles-revolver-album-turns-50/87681696/


TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: beatles; revolver
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To: dfwgator
It can’t get no worse

Genius! /s

41 posted on 07/29/2016 1:17:07 PM PDT by Huck (This is my opinion. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: Borges
"Is that supposed to be a backhanded compliment?"

Not at all. He was GREAT at what he was good at, including perfect vocals and as an instrumentalist.

But, his weakness was he didn't have a ground breaking sound or songs like Lennon. Even though he taught Lennon to tune and play a guitar.

And Lennon didn't have sufficient musicality in the early years to be anything besides the leader of a bar band. And likely out of tune.

42 posted on 07/29/2016 1:19:44 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Huck
"You realize Beatles fans are on all fours with Elvis fans?"

I don't know what that means...

43 posted on 07/29/2016 1:21:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Borges

Who was a great all around songwriter then?


Then and now, Neil Diamond.


44 posted on 07/29/2016 1:22:36 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Huck

You don’t know how lucky you are Boy...


45 posted on 07/29/2016 1:23:23 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: dfwgator
"All three jam on “The End”..."

Once I learned that little tidbit "The End" was that much better to listen to - figuring out whose riffs are whose was lots of fun.

46 posted on 07/29/2016 1:24:35 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Borges

You mean cute little pop jingles? McCartney was good for his era. He could have been a good ad man. For poetics, Bob Dylan holds up well.

As for great all-around songwriter, let’s start with J.S. Bach and see how far down in the gutter we have to go before we reach John Lennon.


47 posted on 07/29/2016 1:25:01 PM PDT by Huck (This is my opinion. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: Mariner

All the avant garde elements of the Beatles records were Paul’s idea. He was the one who went to hear Stockhausen perform. The linked mini suites, the strange production and sound effects. Lennon didn’t like any of it. He wanted straight ahead rock and roll. Listen to Lennon’s solo albums to see how stripped down he got once he got away from Paul’s Artiness.


48 posted on 07/29/2016 1:26:38 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Billthedrill
Lennon also once commented that he took a lot of CRAP from McCartney over Bird.

It's all a single cord of E Major. Just like Tomorrow Never Comes is in a single chord (C Major, I believe).

He probably down-talked the song because of the respect he had for McCartney.

But time show them both to be masterpieces at a level McCartney never achieved.

Like Dear Prudence.

In D Major I believe lol

49 posted on 07/29/2016 1:26:51 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Huck

Apples and Oranges. Bach was not a popular songwriter. He wasn’t a songwriter period.


50 posted on 07/29/2016 1:27:27 PM PDT by Borges
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To: All

Given the general interest in the Beatles, I’m quite surprised nobody has ever written a 3 hour movie to include an analysis of the musical progression. I would imagine it would be YUGE, especially if they could pull clips and audio.

It’s never been done in long form, perhaps even a mini-series would provide more time to do a thorough history documentary.


51 posted on 07/29/2016 1:31:29 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Borges
"He wanted straight ahead rock and roll."

That was certainly his preference.

But not all "artiness" came from McCartney.

Strawberry Fields, Tomorrow Never Comes, A Day in the Life...etc.

Much of the artiness actually came from George Martin who tried to make it sound like John and Paul would describe and hum to him.

52 posted on 07/29/2016 1:31:44 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Borges
Bach was not a popular songwriter.

He was popular and he wrote songs, but I know what you mean. "Popular songwriter" is a euphamism for writer of trivial jingles of dubious value.

53 posted on 07/29/2016 1:32:57 PM PDT by Huck (This is my opinion. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: 1Old Pro
Beatles Anthology.

Get it.

54 posted on 07/29/2016 1:33:33 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Huck

He did not write songs. Not all vocal music is ‘songs’.


55 posted on 07/29/2016 1:35:15 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
"He would have succeeded in the Tin Pan Alley era"

Jet, I can almost remember their funny faces

That time you told them that you were going to be marrying soon

And jet I thought the only lonely place was on the moon

Jet Jet Jet

Jet was your father as bold as the sergeant major

How come he told you that you were hardly old enough yet

And jet I thought the major was a lady suffragette

Hardly.

56 posted on 07/29/2016 1:38:40 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: dfwgator

I recall the title song Ram On, 40 something years later. I think Paul used a banjo or ukelele. One of the sweetest earworms you ever did hear.


57 posted on 07/29/2016 1:39:45 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Mariner

Thx, just took a look over at Amazon, it looks great.


58 posted on 07/29/2016 1:40:29 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Borges

JS Bach was a Kappelmeister, or Orchestra Leader for the local church.


59 posted on 07/29/2016 1:43:55 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Fightin Whitey

As a composer. And a lot of Tin Pan Alley songs had very poor lyrics.


60 posted on 07/29/2016 1:44:29 PM PDT by Borges
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