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Army enters new era: 10 women pass first gender-integrated infantry officer course
Washington Times ^ | October 27, 2016 | Douglas Ernst

Posted on 10/27/2016 11:56:56 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: Mad Dawgg

I hear that often, but the trouble is that women and men together causes drama.
My son a marine, and I and my father have all served and all of us have seen first hand how there is drama, and flirting and a decline in unit cohesiveness. It is just not about if a woman can do the same physical , it is about a unit working together.


21 posted on 10/27/2016 1:18:48 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: manc

Yep there will be drama but only because it is a drastic change in the way things are done. But after it is implemented and becomes normal that will eventually change.


22 posted on 10/27/2016 1:27:14 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

LOL I seriously doubt it.
Women and men together will always bring drama and flirting.


23 posted on 10/27/2016 1:36:20 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: C19fan

My military days are very far back in my review mirror, but if I were active military in a combat unit under the leadership of a female officer, I am not certain I could serve without severe reservations.


24 posted on 10/27/2016 1:36:40 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: onedoug

As in most human endeavors the bad drives out the good. This is intentional.


25 posted on 10/27/2016 1:57:49 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Robwin

Typical interference with the military in an obvious attempt to degrade its capabilities. These lefty LIB social workers need to be thrown out by President Trump. If not, many soldiers will unnecessarily die.


26 posted on 10/27/2016 1:58:02 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: C19fan

“Many of the female officers will now move on to challenges that include Ranger school and Airborne school.”

Good luck with that. Airborne, maybe. Ranger School, I doubt it. The physical requirements are not suited for a woman’s body. They do not possess the upper body strength required for the job and cannot possess it based upon their body makeup and DNA. I assisted in training rangers for physical apptitude from 2001 till 2012 in my facilities.

red


27 posted on 10/27/2016 1:58:05 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71
Good luck with that. Airborne, maybe. Ranger School, I doubt it.

It's already a done deal. They already pushed 3 women through Ranger School with dumbed down standards. They have been given the tab, and one of them already switched from MP to Infantry branch.
28 posted on 10/27/2016 2:08:57 PM PDT by Boris99
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To: Redwood71

Two women have already passed Ranger. More on the way.


29 posted on 10/27/2016 2:28:22 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Night Hides Not

I’m sure those female platoon leaders will be a big hit with units in Germany, i.e. those that spend eight months in the field (i.e. red mud) in Grafenwoehr.

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I was TDY for six months in Graf in the 80’s. I was a 12 bravo, we built the M1 tank range there. We worked our asses off. I put down a few at the Metropol as well.


30 posted on 10/27/2016 2:57:10 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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To: Night Hides Not

Many units are that way. The navy has the same problems. But yeah, if certain times of the month are rough, the infantry has no time for that crap. It’s a dirty, nasty, rough, tough, and suck-it-up buttercup mentality. And it needs to be to get the job done!


31 posted on 10/27/2016 3:07:52 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: C19fan

The ladies humped a forty-pound ruck ten miles?

I don’t think so.

I smell BS.


32 posted on 10/27/2016 3:14:10 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: C19fan

“Many of the female officers will now move on to challenges that include Ranger school and Airborne school.”

This is a joke and an insult to our troops.


33 posted on 10/27/2016 3:21:21 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: C19fan
feh,,,
34 posted on 10/27/2016 4:42:30 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: Az Joe

I’m so totally against this.

It isn’t that a woman can’t be a leader .. most of them can and do run a household, with all of it’s varied tasks; and they do it while raising children.

However, MEN ARE WARRIORS; or at least they’re supposed to be the protectors of the nation and their families. A job women were never created or designed to do.

And .. if I may be bold as to discuss the physiology of women, and the monthly event they have to deal with .. how on earth are they going to be stuck in a fox-hole for days on end .. while the odor permeates the whole area .. and even informs the enemy (as well as wild animals), that a female is present. This actually makes her a DANGER to the other members of the group.

FOR THIS REASON ALONE (not including all the others I can think of), this is a HORRIBLE IDEA.


35 posted on 10/27/2016 6:38:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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To: C19fan

This is BS. I graduated Infantry School in 91. We had to do ten pullups just to go into the DFAC.

25 mile forced road march, full pack, full ammo load. WTF is going on?

I guess there was no pugil sticks between males and females, no ground fighting, no rifle PT.

This sickens me...


36 posted on 10/27/2016 6:52:30 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: Mad Dawgg

>>I have no problem with women serving in combat units BUT if they cannot pass the same physical tests as men to do so then they shouldn’t be there. <<

Same for mental/emotional tests. People forget the intensive psychological requirements of elite warriors.


37 posted on 10/28/2016 6:14:55 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Never Trump=Always hiLIARy)
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Close friend of ours was in on the initial testing to see if women could make the grade—he said they could not, and the Brass were told to do everything they could to tweak the course to get the women to pass.

Sad consequence of this training for a number of women was infertility due to body stressors. Israelis found the same problem, which is why they pulled their women out of physically demanding combat arms. Guess those with a political agenda of female “equality” don't care much about the real females involved.

38 posted on 10/28/2016 6:25:33 AM PDT by binreadin
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To: HenpeckedCon
I was TDY for six months in Graf in the 80’s. I was a 12 bravo, we built the M1 tank range there. We worked our asses off. I put down a few at the Metropol as well.

Never made it to Graf, I was ADA (air base defense), though I had several visits to Vilseck for training. NBC school was outstanding, I got a lot of mileage out of that and the extra duty of NBC Officer for my battery, and later, my battalion.

I did enough time in the field, though, between ARTEPs, training, and base tac evals, to know I wanted no part of Graf.

39 posted on 10/28/2016 6:40:17 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Boris99

I made myself misunderstood. I didn’t make the good luck with that statement to indicate they wouldn’t be passed. Uncle Sugar can’t afford to look like the idiots they are by themselves. Terrible what they have done to the standards. The women have not been forced to men’s physical apptitude standards many years. I understand they have “passed” 3 women already. But the standards will not support the need and we’ll have to see what is said when they get some people killed because they didn’t adhere to them to cover the mission by playing political correctness with two standards. It was alright when they were creaing jobs for women so they could get them in to work for the system. But most men can’t pass requirements within the training that is designed for a man’s physique and strength women can’t provide. An this is not a knock, just a medical fact.

red


40 posted on 10/28/2016 7:46:51 AM PDT by Redwood71
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