Posted on 02/28/2017 7:24:19 PM PST by conservative98
Mark R. LevinVerified account @marklevinshow
FWIW, President Trump's speech was terrific, despite certain policy disagreements I have with him.
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
>I don’t see how any conservative supports the infrastructure spending. It’s a Big Government stimulus that failed when )bama tried it — so now Trump is throwing even more money at it.
Obama failed at because he spent it on garbage like solor power and education. He didn’t build infrastructure.
>A lot of good stuff in there, but the infrastructure stuff is just more Big Government waste.
Nope. One of the few proven things governments are useful at is infrastructure construction that enables economic growth. From the nuclear power industry, to the roads, harbors and aqueducts of Rome, and the subway system of NYC and the continental railroad , government infrastructure projects generally lead to large increases in economic growth. If you need more proof take a look at China’s amazing growth.
I think you’re forgetting the “broken window” effect, failing to look at the hidden costs.
https://www.mercatus.org/publications/would-more-infrastructure-spending-stimulate-economy-2017
http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2009/02/cbo_stimulus_shrinks_economy.html
But Trump proposed it, so it MUST be good!
What a jerk to add that last bit as if this crotchety schmuck is higher up in ANY measure than the President.
>But Trump proposed it, so it MUST be good!
Hey, it’s a nevertrumper. Shouldn’t you be chanting Hillary 2020 in a coven full of witches?
>I think you’re forgetting the “broken window” effect, failing to look at the hidden costs.
So you don’t think that the amazing infrastructure of the Roman empire, China, Japan, Germany and the US had anything to do with each nation’s success?
Please note that I’m not going to argue with you on the basis of economic studies because A) Economics isn’t a real science that makes accurate predictions about future events and B) because empirical history is a much better guide to what does and does not work.
2) on infrastructure, Trump has from Day One proposed new, creative methods of financing projects, private money, repatriated funds, etc. You are stuck in old thinking, defining terms and projects in government-program terms, the way politicians always have. That era is OVER.
You need to start thinking outside the box like your President does.
Probably because Mr. Levin nearly choked on his own words as he said them, and then continued to vacillate for weeks thereafter. It was the most tepid "conversion experience" I've ever witnessed.
Both then and now, Mark Levin has proven his inability to be fair to Trump, repeatedly. It takes everything he has to say something positive about the President, and doubtless the only reason he does even that is because he wants to retain a modicum of the audience he formerly had.
If Mark Levin isn't still a "Never Trumper", he's still perilously close to seeming like one. Levin's support of President Trump continues to be the epitome of lukewarm.
Many of us can distinctly remember how Levin gleefully parroted every phony, disingenuous Establishment and Media (but I repeat myself) attack which was made during the campaign season. No act of character assassination was too unfair for Levin to propagate.
Some of us remember that when faced with a choice between Trump and Clinton, Levin chose Trump.
OMG, how heroic! Levin doubtless had to wrestle immensely over such a gut-wrenching dilemma.
It wasn’t necessary that all of us become mindless disciples, and I for one will never be the mindless disciple of anybody.
I wasn't necessary for anyone to become mindless disciples, and there are virtually none of those, either here or in any other community. That canard is simply a rationalization for disparaging both the President and his enthusiastic supporters.
You see, it's just that some of us realize that we're at war here, and that it's extremely counterproductive to aid and abet the Enemy by promulgating their propaganda.
And you know what? Sometimes that means giving President Trump the benefit of the doubt! Sometimes it means displaying goodwill, or even (gasp!) being a "cheerleader"!
All of those things can be true without the word "worship" applying in any way.
Indeed, your assertion that anyone is being "worshipful" is patently false, and should be dismissed with extreme prejudice. It's nothing but a smear fomented by those who harbor lingering ill will against the President—people who are still transparently bitter that their "idol" didn't make the cut.
Mark Levin has a long way to go before he redeems himself in the eyes of avid Trump supporters. Why? Because he dug himself a very large hole, and because we all remember very clearly how much he did to actively undermine this Revolution.
President Trump's supporters are very clear on the fact that he is a flawed human being, but many are equally clear in their belief that God is using this imperfect vessel to be an instrument of His will.
We, President Trump's supporters, are doubtless similarly imperfect, each in his own way.
But if calling Mark Levin a "Never Trumper" is a "Big Lie", an even bigger lie is smearing the President's enthusiastic supporters as being "worshipful" or treating him as a "god".
Well, for one thing, at least it's Constitutional spending, and it's also undeniable that it's profoundly necessary. Furthermore, it will be the result of a public/private partnership to a much greater degree than anything 0bama did, and, additionally, it won't be a transparent scheme to dole out corporate welfare to favored industries.
I can't think of any President who could be better suited to implementing such federal spending.
I believe in minimal government, and one positive feature about this infrastructure spending is that it won't be used to grow the size of government.
Honestly, I don't get the knee-jerk opposition to a federal spending program that is both Constitutional and absolutely necessary, and, by the way, something that will put millions of Americans back to work!
There's nothing about supporting such legitimate federal spending that makes anyone stop being a conservative.
Opposing this infrastructure bill is going to put some strident ideologues in a distinct and silly-sounding minority.
President Trump will make sure that these projects are completed on time, under budget, and without creating corporate welfare. What more could anyone ask?
Well, I myself didn’t use the word “worshipful”. I have no serious problem with complaints about whether this person or that is sufficiently supportive of Trump, or with disputes about whether their reasons for disagreeing with him on a particular issue are well-founded or not. That’s a matter about which well-intentioned persons can honestly disagree (and argue civilly for their positions as effectively as they can). Saying that Levin is a “NeverTrumper”, though, is simply untrue. It hasn’t been true since September 6, 2016.
> You see, it’s just that some of us realize that we’re at war here, and that it’s extremely counterproductive to aid and abet the Enemy by promulgating their propaganda.
Yes, when that’s what’s happening rather than persons expressing deeply held — and long held — convictions that they believe it’s important to express. Having said that, I agree that criticism should be toned down somewhat immediately before an election. If Levin had made a dramatic switch, though, from harshly criticizing Trump to whitewashing him about everything, he’d have lost all credibility, and his support would have been worth nothing.
After all, Levin’s support wasn’t needed with persons who were already Trump supporters (and it wasn’t likely to be effective with independents or leftists, few of whom would heed him). Where his influence was most likely to be helpful was with conservatives who were then NeverTrumpers but reluctant to stand by and allow Hillary to win. To avoid alienating them, he had to retain many of his anti-Trump stands, but support him just enough to encourage reluctant supporters to choose him over Hillary. Besides, I don’t doubt that those were Levin’s real views — against Trump on many matters but even more against Clinton.
I can’t speak for others, but speaking for myself, I’m more likely to be convinced by someone who concedes a point here and there, and doesn’t pretend that what (or the person) he’s defending is right in all respects — in a real war, for instance, who admits that our side occasionally commits atrocities too (but doesn’t dwell on them — I agree about that), and counters that we don’t commit nearly as many as the enemy (and that a victory by us would be much more beneficial — or less harmful — than a victory by them). I don’t find praise or condemnation, if done in a simplistic way, to be convincing.
A 30-second radio or tv ad needs to be simple, of course. There’s no time for nuances. On an internet forum, though, there’s room for a bit more subtlety.
Mark Levin - NON STOP NEVER TRUMP (Vanitiy)
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Nope
Screw him and I own four of his books and was a daily listener
His overplaying the anti Semite card and neoconfederate blather about such obscure silliness had already made him obnoxious
Trumps race made him insufferable
You need suggestions where to anti freep jackass?
I can help
Mod must be sleeping
I was a daily Levin listener
The picture you paint is not the reality
"On Tuesday [September 6,2016], talk radio host Mark Levin announced, 'I’m going to vote for Donald Trump.'" [Breitbart]
Levin endlessly trashed Trump long after he’d secured the nomination, providing implicit support to Hillary Clinton until weeks before the election when, in a transparent attempt to be able to claim to his audience that he fought against Hillary Clinton when he never had, he went through the motions of support but only with caveats about how he’d hold Trump’s feet to the fire etc etc followed by more criticisms.
You haven’t identified anything. I listened to Mark Levin almost everyday from 2008 to 2016. Can’t hardly stand his repetitive rants anymore so I have mostly tuned out.
You haven’t identified anything. I listened to Mark Levin almost everyday from 2008 to 2016. Can’t hardly stand his repetitive rants anymore so I have mostly tuned out.
He was trashing him all day yesterday about his Jeb Bush amnesty plan. With friends like Levin...
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