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Indians, casinos, and decent folk?

Posted on 08/08/2017 7:50:32 AM PDT by LouAvul

I'm in Oklahoma and we have casinos everywhere. It seems.

But a tribe has surreptitiously acquired a small piece of property in my particular town and built facilities for a restaurant. Now it's been revealed they intend to start a casino, and our councilmen say there's nothing they can do.

Even though gambling is illegal in my town, these people are protected by the federal government to open up one of their filthy, prefabricated, typically "native American" dumps? They say they are, and they say as long as they comply with the feds, they can do whatever they want.

I'm going to contact my Congresscritters. Is there any precedent for shutting down a gambling establishment?

I never shot and Indian and am tired of giving these people special consideration for what my ancestors might, or might not have, done.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: americanindians; casinos; oklahoma
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To: All

Any complaints on gambling on the Mississippi River??? Vegas??? Atlantic City??? Tahoe???


21 posted on 08/08/2017 8:08:00 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: LouAvul

Are you saying that members of American Indian tribes are not decent people???


22 posted on 08/08/2017 8:10:03 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: JBW1949

Well, if Custer hadn’t of fell off his horse. /s ;<)


23 posted on 08/08/2017 8:11:48 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (I'm tired of the Cult of Clinton. Wish she would just pass out the Koolaide)
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To: LouAvul

If you want to see how our PC government knuckled under to the Native American mob, read the book “No Reservations”, which details how the Foxwoods Casino in Connecticut got started back in the 70s.


24 posted on 08/08/2017 8:12:52 AM PDT by ssaftler ("Keep your hands to yourself, leave other people's things alone, and be kind to one another.")
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Seems to be a lot of stereotyping going on in this thread...


25 posted on 08/08/2017 8:14:43 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: LouAvul

Indian casinos around here are nice. And among the best concert venues “in” town. Not much you can do about it one way or the other.


26 posted on 08/08/2017 8:15:08 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: LouAvul

Its called ‘getting even’. Remember the “Trail of Tears”?


27 posted on 08/08/2017 8:16:40 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The easiest way to confront this...without a lot of hassle...is to make all state roads leading into the reservation toll roads, with only Indians or hired employees getting free access. At that point, the casino/restaurant/hotel will complain about this, but you are offering them the free access...just not the hotel or casino visitors. At $2 coming and going...your local town makes a fair amount of money off the casino concept.


28 posted on 08/08/2017 8:16:45 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: LouAvul

Casinos have cheapened Oklahoma, if that was possible,and are mostly trashy and a blight on the state. Some tribes, Choctaw, have provided some good tribal programs. Others, Cherokee, you wonder where the money goes.

In small towns the small casino is like a dark shadow. They remind me of the old county and state line beer joints but just newer models.

You would think they are already overbuilt with more than 90 in the state. I dont see how they can avoid becoming unsightly blights that need to be condemned. This will lead to even worse indian poverty.

It is a shame, the more indian an area is the more blighted and trashy it is. If the redman was ever dignified he has been stripped of it. One road I know is just a linear trash can.


29 posted on 08/08/2017 8:17:06 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: LouAvul

If they are on sovereign land they can do what they want...


30 posted on 08/08/2017 8:18:29 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: LouAvul

certainly the land was aquired under false pretences... and bet your town has some sort of zoning laws..???
such as # of parking spaces, handicapped parking ratio... signs allowed in certain zones...
However the anti gambling law ought to require a special exemption regardless of indian acquisition of the property...
and that exemtion can be denied...
another tact might be taxing the gross revenues to the point it makes no economic sense
but i think the building permit issue and the local law prevails.... next they will build a brothel ... hahahahaha


31 posted on 08/08/2017 8:19:50 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: LouAvul

Most Casinos today except the costly ones in Vegas are same crowd as obese walmart shoppers

Not for me

And pricey casinos are too much and often kids from LA bunk 4 to a room to go get drunk and vomit in the pool

I was at the VenetianPalazzo a few years ago and the pool scene was just that at 450/night two rooms

I’ll pass


32 posted on 08/08/2017 8:21:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Reservation at an Indian restaurant


33 posted on 08/08/2017 8:21:47 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

Living in Arizona, it has quickly become apparent that Indians can claim ANY LAND as theirs. There was a big kerfuffle a while back about an Indian Casino being planned within a block of a high school. Cannot remember exactly where in this area, but the Indians won their suit. Political correctness affords the Indians pretty much anything they want. Some of the Indian Casinos are nice, some are dumps. But they always generate revenue for the tribes.


34 posted on 08/08/2017 8:23:37 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

If you saw an intention to murder someone you’re seeing things. He never made any kind of threat at all.


35 posted on 08/08/2017 8:24:34 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: marron

I worked briefly in the industry as a software engineer.
The machines included a “hot player” notification, informing the management that a patron was doing unusually well - so the house could...distract the player as they saw fit.


36 posted on 08/08/2017 8:26:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: LouAvul

Reading comprehension or not . . . if a person of Indian descent is shot in the vicinity of your town one might read intent in your statement - and as another posted, it was an awful sentence construction.

At any rate, I gave you the opportunity to clarify that that was not your intention . . . and that’s a good thing, is it not?


37 posted on 08/08/2017 8:28:09 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Don Corleone

There is a much heavier tribal consciousness among many non Judeo-Christian peoples than there is in “white America” and these peoples tend to project their worldview upon “white America” as being Yet Another Nasty Tribe.

We see American Indians do it; we see legacy black peoples do it.

Peoples who have learned to subsume this factor to higher goals (such as almost all Asians, and the occasional black person who has recently immigrated here from Africa) don’t wallow in this mindset.

I’ve humorously proposed in song that all Americans see themselves as rednecks. Rednecks come in many colors... yellow, red, tan, white, and black. The attitude change is so, so different when they do. Now even if not united by skin color, they are united by life philosophy.


38 posted on 08/08/2017 8:28:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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I am a Vietnam veteran, conservative all my life...I am a retired electrical engineer from a well known corporation...

I am also 1/4 Ani Yun Wiya and on the tribal rolls...

I resent the stereotyping going on in this thread...


39 posted on 08/08/2017 8:30:50 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Don Corleone

“Its called ‘getting even’. Remember the “Trail of Tears”?”

Actually, by opening up casinos they are showing that Indian tribes and customs are gone. There is nothing “even” for them about that. Besides, are there really any purebred native American tribes left? They’re all half-breeds or less.


40 posted on 08/08/2017 8:30:54 AM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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