Hugh Hefner, Founder Of Playboy, Dead At 91

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hugh-hefner-founder-playboy-dead-031914304.html ^ | 9-27-17 | Stephanie Marcus

[ARGLOCKGUY]

Playboy founder and legendary ladies’ man Hugh Hefner has died at the age of 91, according to Playboy Enterprises.

The magazine said he was surrounded by loved ones and “peacefully passed away today from natural causes at his home.”

[Claud]

Exactly. Once you see Marilyn Monroe naked, now all of a sudden Betty your high school sweetheart don’t look like such a catch anymore. If you marry her at all, a few years down the road she’s getting chunky and wrinkly, and you leave and go find another Marilyn with a nice rack and no brain. Until she annoys you or figures she can do better.

You want a life well-lived? Marry a good woman. Love your wife not because of her proportions but because of her SOUL. Raise good kids, watch THEM raise good kids and then you can ease on out embraced in an ocean of love and admiration from people who will actually miss you.

[Drew68]

In short, since all the prurience and debauchery was going on sub rosa, Hef and other factors liberated us all.

I see the sexual revolution primarily as a byproduct of the massive, incalculable carnage and human waste of WWII, a war that Hugh Hefner was a part of. This shifting of priorities and moral values in the face of such arbitrary death and destruction paved the way for an environment conducive to Playboy magazine. Indeed, it would be battle-hardened war veterans, many still in their 20s when the first issue hit the newsstands in 1953, who would make Hef a cultural icon.

[Drew68]

They ALL did that? Every single GI did that? Or were there there the nerdy guys writing letters back home to their sweethearts?

Yes, Claud, a whole bunch of guys read Playboy. Some of them even while writing letters back home to their sweethearts.

You see, there is a reason the words "publishing empire" are often used when talking about Hugh Hefner and his magazine. It is because Playboy in it's heyday, was massively popular. It was popular because people, primarily men, most of whom were veterans, were buying the magazine.

I find it odd that we are supposed to praise the courage of the Greatest Generation while cursing the moral degenerates who read Playboy. They were the same men.

[Claud]

Indeed, it would be battle-hardened war veterans, many still in their 20s when the first issue hit the newsstands in 1953, who would make Hef a cultural icon.

That would be these same men, right, from 1959?

This is classic theological effeminacy: an aversion to anything that diminishes pleasure. Can't even be bothered to show up to church AT EASTER.

I am not taking away what these men did at Normandy, Midway, or Guadalcanal, but too many of these "battle-hardened" vets came home and became completely effeminate with regard to their duties before God and raising their children. See that boy learning an important lesson about how important God is? Ten years later he was probably a little leftist punk writing in the mud at Woodstock.

[momtothree]

:)

[Claud]

I find it odd that we are supposed to praise the courage of the Greatest Generation while cursing the moral degenerates who read Playboy. They were the same men.

Believe me, I am starting to recognize that more and more. I'm a Gen Xer so I'm inclined to blame the Boomers for everything going wrong in the 60s, but I also know they were too young to have actually started it.

I knew there HAD to be something off about the "Greatest Generation" that caused this, and thanks to this discussion with you I am starting to see what.

I actually am in agreement with your main thesis about the War and the Sexual Revolution. Where I differ is that far from liberating us from Puritanism, I think it has destroyed our country.

[tumblindice]

He's reading a fascinating article.

[dubyagee]

‘Zactly...’just lookin’ leads to coveting...goes right on back to the garden. People just don’t understand the danger of ‘I was just...’ Blessings.

[beef]

A “happy ending”, you mean?

[Wpin]

Maybe you need new glasses...

[WVMnteer]

“The Greatest Generation” was raised during the Great Depression. The fact that they didn’t grow up and lead a socialist revolution is a testament to the idea that they did deserve a lot of the praise they received.

At the same time, they came of age in a world without a safety net and then received the greatest “big government” benefit ever in the GI Bill. So, make that what you will.

As for those who served, they were young men in their teens and early twenties who were in a life and death situation....and who also may have had money for the first time in their lives.

I knew a WWII vet who was everything the Greatest Generation was supposed to be. Raised kids that went to elite colleges. Volunteer Fire Chief. Rotary club. Volunteer. Deacon in the Church. All that jazz.

And if you got three beers in him, he would talk for hours about what French girls would do in a barn for some cigarettes and chocolate bars.

[WVMnteer]

There actually was a time when Playboy had fanstastic writing. That was largely dead by the 80s. I still did eventually get around to reading the articles on fashion and cars.

Playboy really only had four sections with naked women, and one of those was in black n white.

There would usually be some theme photos with past playmates (it’s football season!). There was the Playmate of the Month. And then would be the D-list celebrity, Girls of the Big Ten, Girls of Hooters section. And then there would be some culture section with like a black and white of some hot glamour model or something.

[Claud]

There’s something to what you said. With the WPA in the Depression, the War effort, the Marshall Plan, Civil Rights, the Great Society, the moon landing, maybe they started thinking that government done right really *could* really solve the world’s problems.

[WVMnteer]

I think ultimately, debauchery is always a class issue. Richard Pryor didn’t grew up in a whorehouse because of WWII. Richard Pryor grew up in a whorehouse because he was poor. There was always illegitimacy and divorce and such among the poor.

Educated Americans still understand that the best way to build financial success and a happy life is to get married and stay married. And when you remove the very poor and those people with multiple divorces from the statistics, we get and stayed married as much as we ever did.

The difference, I think, is that the experience of WWII taught a generation that everything can end in an instant. So, the idea of waiting until your wedding night to experience that one thing suddenly seemed a fool’s errand.

And they couldn’t really hold their sons to a different standard (they could their daughters of course).

Americans who succeed have generally come to believe that the time to get married is your late 20s or early 30s. Expecting people to keep their pants on for that length of time is unreasonable. My grandmother was married at 17. I was married at 34. Was I supposed to wait two of her lifetimes?

[WVMnteer]

I mean, all those things you cite are basically the reason that I am not a libertarian, but rather a conservative. I think government is an absolute necessity and sometimes, it is the only place where a problem may be solved.

But it can’t solve everything and attempts to do so create more problems that lead to more government intervention and now that path lies madness.

I think that so many people either serving or working in a militarized economy created a belief that leaders knew what they were doing.

[EEGator]

I like mine better. :)

[EEGator]

That chick got murdered, right?

[Drew68]

See that boy learning an important lesson about how important God is? Ten years later he was probably a little leftist punk writing in the mud at Woodstock.

Probably as good a chance that ten years later he was learning an important lesson about how important God is in the jungles of Vietnam (and reading Playboy).

I guess I took issue with how quickly so many here piled on Hefner with knee-jerk clichés when news of his death came last night, "Moral degenerate! Reprobate! Burn in hell!" as if Hugh Hefner single-handedly infected a straight-laced Eisenhower America with filth, forever corrupting a once chaste and virtuous society. Hefner merely provided American culture with something it was asking for at the time it was asking for it. He was as much a product of post-war cultural upheavals as he was an influence on them.

[Vaquero]

So do I

[Chode]

hell yeah