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The Thanksgiving Day Game That Defined American Football
Townhall.com ^ | November 22, 2017 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 11/22/2017 6:15:36 AM PST by Kaslin

A group of students from Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Columbia met at the Fifth Avenue Hotel in New York City on April 28, 1882 and made an unambiguous decision: The United States was declaring its independence from British football.

"A proposition to adopt the English rugby rules was unanimously rejected," the New York Daily Tribune reported on May 1, 1882.

The basic concept at the foundation of American football originated in ancient Greece but came to the United States through Britain.

As early as the 12th century, the English were playing "football" games -- particularly on Shrove Tuesday.

William Fitz-Stephen wrote a biography of his friend, St. Thomas Becket, which he introduced with a description of London that celebrated the local custom of playing football on the day before Lent.

"After dinner," Fitz-Stephen wrote, according to a 1772 translation from the original Latin, "all the youth of the city go into the field of the suburbs, and address themselves to the famous game of football."

But Col. Alexander Weyand, who captained Amy in 1915, described in his 1955 book, "The Saga of American Football," how American colleges started out playing a game that was neither the English game of soccer nor the English game of rugby.

Yet, they then turned to soccer, and then to rugby, and then created an entirely new and completely American game.

When Princeton and Rutgers played the first game in 1869, he wrote, it "conformed to no recognized European code of rules."

But then, in 1873, students from Princeton, Columbia, Rutgers and Yale -- but not Harvard -- met in New York and adopted rules that Weyand described as "essentially similar" to soccer.

The next year, Harvard played McGill under Canadian rugby rules.

In 1876, Princeton called a meeting with Harvard, Yale and Columbia, which the late Delaware coach David M. Nelson described in his book, "Anatomy of a Game." It was attended by "only eight students."

They created the Intercollegiate Football Association, Nelson reported, and adopted rugby rules.

But Princeton's legalistic mastering of these rules -- particularly in its games with Yale -- would soon drive the same schools that had voted to adopt the rugby-style game to abandon it.

On Thanksgiving 1878, Princeton beat Yale and claimed the championship. In 1879, Princeton and Yale tied 0-0, and the association let Princeton retain its championship.

Weyand quoted The New York Times expressing its disgust in the wake of this game: "For nearly ten minutes the men struggled without gaining ten feet either way, the 'backs' of each side being nothing but interested onlookers."

In 1880, Yale's Walter Camp suggested a new rule that would abolish the rugby scrummage. Instead, a team would be given undisputed possession of the ball, which a center could snap back to a quarterback with his foot.

These rules, however, would not penalize a team for taking a safety.

In the 1880 Princeton-Yale game, the Tigers played for another 0-0 tie, taking 11 unscored safeties.

Now, Weyand reported, Camp succeeded in rule changes that added as many as two overtime periods to a tied game and held that "the side which makes four or more safeties less than their opponents shall win the game."

But while now penalizing safeties, the rules did not penalize a "touch-in-goal" -- which involved throwing the ball to a player in the area behind your own goal line but outside the side line. When teams did this, they got the ball back at the 25-yard line.

In the 1881 Princeton-Yale game, played at the Polo Grounds in Manhattan, Princeton used the touch-in-goal to retain possession for most of the first half. Yale similarly stalled in the second.

"In an extra inning," Weyand wrote, "Princeton kept possession of the ball until darkness terminated the farce." It was another 0-0 tie.

A group of British expatriates then started a movement to kill America's nascent effort to form its own brand of football.

These British players, including one E.H. Moeran, met Walter Camp of Yale and representatives from Princeton and Harvard at Delmonico's restaurant on April 8, 1882.

"Mr. Moeran, who presided, said that he had only seen two games in this country, and if those were a sample of the way in which the games were to be played it would be better to crush football in its infancy," The New York Times reported the next day. "He asked the Americans to adopt the Rugby rules, but the Americans, speaking from practical experience, disagreed with him."

Three weeks later, the association unanimously rejected returning to the rugby rules. But they did accept another change suggested by Camp that required the team in possession of the ball to get five yards (or lose 10) in three plays or surrender possession.

That Thanksgiving, Princeton and Yale played again at the Polo Grounds. It was not a tie. Yale was leading with little time left -- but then Princeton mounted a final drive.

"Yale made a magnificent stand on the three-yard line, but the ball was pushed over," reported a history of Princeton athletics published in 1901. "But the referee was not sure whose hands were on the ball when it crossed the line, and refused to give Princeton the touchdown!"

They gave Yale the victory.

More than a century later, the NCAA introduced instant replay -- which could have determined who really won that game.


TOPICS: History; Sports
KEYWORDS: football; history; thanksgivingsday; whyisthisinchat

1 posted on 11/22/2017 6:15:36 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The NFL is not National after disrespecting the National Flag and Anthem


2 posted on 11/22/2017 6:26:25 AM PST by CptnObvious (uestion her now.)
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To: Kaslin

More light on the ignorance and stupidity of the NFL when they stand for God Save the Queen and grovel for our own anthem.


3 posted on 11/22/2017 6:26:39 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Kaslin
Maybe the NFL should switch over to Rugby, play “God Save the Queen”, and skip the American National Anthem entirely.

The NFL can’t die fast enough.

4 posted on 11/22/2017 6:38:17 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

Weird...the first few comments...this article is about a history - 20 YEARS (and more) BEFORE the nfl.


5 posted on 11/22/2017 6:48:13 AM PST by spankalib
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To: Kaslin

Rugby is more fun to watch than NFL, especially a weekend 7s tournament.


6 posted on 11/22/2017 6:48:47 AM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: Kaslin

Wasn’t it Knute Rockne who introduced the forward pass?


7 posted on 11/22/2017 7:35:51 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: spankalib

Of course it is about history. It’s about history of football.


9 posted on 11/22/2017 8:04:21 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: tumblindice
I did some searches and found these

The NFL says it was Knute

The Early History of Football’s Forward Pass

History of the Forward Pass

There are more links about it

10 posted on 11/22/2017 8:13:07 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: CptnObvious

This has nothing to do with the NFL, but the history of playing Football on Thanksgivings Day. If you had read the article you would have noticed that the NFL is not even mentioned.


11 posted on 11/22/2017 8:18:24 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin

Knute was a Norskie. “Screw all this running, I’m throwing the ball” was brilliant (for a squarehead).
Wife’s a scandy, just kidding.
I still love football, but frozen in time. Someone here said earlier, college ball has become the NFL’s JV.
There was a time when the guys who played loved the game and had `real’ jobs in the off-season. Pro ball’s a mess. Just my 2 cents.


12 posted on 11/22/2017 9:59:13 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Kaslin

There’s been a few rule changes since then and the NFL enforces them all except one.

This article if nothing for me and I believe millions of others reminds us that Football is a uniquely American sport which is being ruined by a few overpaid un-American jerks.

No American business needs to keep on an employee/contractor
that tells its customers that their product stinks.

Stand with your helmet in your left arm, your right hand over your heart, don’t spit, no sign of disrespect for our flag or anthem or anything just stand there for 2 f’n minuetes or you’re fired.

America is one of the few bright lights of freedom in the world (the only one?) for all mankind and these overpaid assholes are robbing us of our sport.

Sigh. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.


13 posted on 11/22/2017 10:16:00 AM PST by Tunehead54
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To: Tunehead54

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!


14 posted on 11/22/2017 10:34:13 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin

National Football is dead. Dead to me and my family. We will go and watch College and High School only from now on.


15 posted on 11/22/2017 10:52:22 AM PST by CptnObvious (uestion her now.)
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