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How many Founding Fathers were themselves held in slavery?
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Posted on 12/22/2017 4:29:25 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica

A couple of years ago, I came across and wrote about an article in Ebony magazine on the topic of white slavery.

This highlights yet another miscarriage of fake historians. We are all supposed to collectively shrug our shoulders, wave our hand and say "oh but that was just 'indentured servitude'. That wasn't real slavery." As the Ebony article makes clear, yes, it was very much "just as real" as the slavery we are all constantly made to feel guilty for.

But I've already written what I wanted about that article. Here's the real question:

How many of the Founding Fathers themselves were held in slavery? We know whites were held in bondage by the King. We know it happened well before America was founded. So who?

There were two, in particular, both of whom were signatories of the Declaration of Independence.

The first is Matthew Thornton, and the second is George Taylor.

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TOPICS: History; Reference
KEYWORDS: foundingfathers; georgetaylor; matthewthornton; progressingamerica; slavery
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1 posted on 12/22/2017 4:29:25 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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To: nicollo; Kalam; IYAS9YAS; laplata; mvonfr; Southside_Chicago_Republican; celmak; SvenMagnussen; ...

Ping..............


2 posted on 12/22/2017 4:30:00 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

We know when slavery was abolished by Britain, and we know when it was abolished by the North Americans. And we know when it was abolished by the South Americans. When was it abolished in Africa?

Has it yet been abolished among Africans?


3 posted on 12/22/2017 4:32:43 PM PST by marron
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To: marron
My cat holds me in bondage.

Can we do something about cat supremacy?

Let my people go!!!!!!

4 posted on 12/22/2017 4:35:42 PM PST by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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To: marron
#3 marron wrote: We know when slavery was abolished by Britain, and we know when it was abolished by the North Americans. And we know when it was abolished by the South Americans. When was it abolished in Africa? Has it yet been abolished among Africans? Good point. Add the moslem nations, as well.
5 posted on 12/22/2017 4:36:26 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Dunno about that but back in the UK they cleared the streets and poor houses and sent them to the new world as slaves in about 1660 or so.

NOT indentured servants, but as slaves.


6 posted on 12/22/2017 4:36:59 PM PST by crz
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To: marron

It never will be as long as islame exists.


7 posted on 12/22/2017 4:37:07 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: marron

Most of Africa, which isn’t tribal, is Islamic and slavery is legal and condoned even encouraged under sharia. The mussulman slavers are coming ... again, like they did in the century of Islamic conquest 620-730AD


8 posted on 12/22/2017 4:37:18 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: marron

Has slavery been abolished among Arab nations?


9 posted on 12/22/2017 4:47:04 PM PST by abclily
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To: ProgressingAmerica

In 17th century Virginia your odds of actually surviving a seven year period of indenture and collecting the land bounty were only one in seventeen. If you died during your indenture your master got the land, so you were literally worth more dead than alive.


10 posted on 12/22/2017 4:51:14 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: ProgressingAmerica
'indentured servitude'. That wasn't real slavery." As the Ebony article makes clear, yes, it was very much "just as real" as the slavery

I don't agree. Some people came over voluntarily to work in "indentured servitude" for some period. For them it was a way to pay for their transportation to a country with much more freedom than they had previously.

11 posted on 12/22/2017 4:53:01 PM PST by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: libertylover

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The same is true for agricultural slaves in the south.

Their progeny are vastly better off than they would be anywhere else on earth.


12 posted on 12/22/2017 4:55:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: heterosupremacist; rawcatslyentist; marron; abclily

Slave auctions being held in Libya just two weeks ago -

https://nypost.com/2017/12/04/slave-auctions-in-libya-caught-on-camera/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/10/libya-public-slave-auctions-un-migration

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/11/29/a-slave-auction-puts-the-global-spotlight-back-on-libya/?utm_term=.b96b04af6938

https://youtu.be/2S2qtGisT34

As long as Islam exists, slavery will exist.

Something conveniently forgotten by America’s race pimps, the NOI and the Democrat Party.


13 posted on 12/22/2017 5:03:44 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: libertylover

Some people came over voluntarily to work in “indentured servitude”....

But many had their servitude indefinably extended. Black slaves were cared for until death. When the whites were old and no longer wanted they were kicked out without any care.


14 posted on 12/22/2017 5:08:19 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: libertylover

Respectfully disagree. The first son inherited all, and subsequent sons received little. So, in exchange for passage, they became the property of the purchaser. The only volunteerism was gambling their lives in exchange for a CHANCE at freedom.


15 posted on 12/22/2017 5:13:39 PM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

actually your wrong about indentured servitude. the difference is contract law. An indentured servant has an agreed set time where his labor is in payment for a debt owed. the English indentured to the crown or another wealthy individual. The Dutch generally indentured to a corporation, which allowed the individual to outperform and get an office or land grant. Think of it more like the guild system, the price of being an apprentice is your work is owned by the master. So you’re a pauper, laborer and you want out of England, France , Germany, how do you pay to come to America where they need labor.

I’ll remind all the first slave owner in now the USA was a black man, who had 3 indentured servants run away, be recaptured and the court extended the whites indenture 10 years if I remember correctly and the black was made permanent.

Previous to that a slave ship sailed up the Chesapeake, with a load of slaves. The Africans were freed and the crew imprisoned. Think about the religious implications of leaving the old world for America. Most of the original emigrants were “non conformists” persecuted and wanted out. (both from England and Dutch ports.)

Frankly indentured servitude would be preferable for most of the inner city urban that the democommies refuse to educate, at least they would get a productive skill set, instead of a failed education to prison pipeline/death.


16 posted on 12/22/2017 5:21:48 PM PST by waynesa98 (.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Thank you, I will read the links too. Just talking about indentured servitude recently, now I will learn a lot about it.


17 posted on 12/22/2017 5:21:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: SeeSharp

“In 17th century Virginia your odds of actually surviving a seven year period of indenture and collecting the land bounty were only one in seventeen. If you died during your indenture your master got the land, so you were literally worth more dead than alive.”

Fortunately, mine survived but from the 1700’s.


18 posted on 12/22/2017 5:35:29 PM PST by Bonemaker
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To: marron

The last country in the world to outlaw slavery was Mauritania in 1981, yet it wasn’t until 2007 that owning slaves was made a crime. In reality, hundreds of thousands of people are still enslaved there. Most of the slave owners are Arab Muslims. Most of the slaves are black.


19 posted on 12/22/2017 5:37:25 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Quite a few currently living Americans have been or are presently indentured servants/slaves while in the military services.

You are told what to wear, when & where to work & live and when to go put your life on the line to defend this country. Even slaves were seldom ordered into battle.

If you think this comparison is a gross exaggeration, just enlist and then try to ‘just walk away’.


20 posted on 12/22/2017 5:40:57 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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