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Posted on 08/12/2018 5:38:29 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Well, we did it. We took my Spanish 12ga shotgun with the 27.5" barrel and cut it off. Now, it has a 19" barrel and the end has been filed and finished and it is ready to go. The intended purpose is for home defense, or in a still rare case, if some group of people are causing a problem/rioting out in society as a secondary weapon. In some literary circles, such is called a "Coach Gun".
It appears some characters in history over 100 years ago determined that a cut down shotgun would be an effective weapon a close ranges when only 1-2 shots were needed to take care of a criminal who didn't know when to run. To all of us who know guns, if faced with a double-barreled 12ga at close range, and upon being informed it has 00 Buck in it, one tends to find a way to de-escalate that disagreement or run like hell. Without getting into all of the legalities and exceptions, suffice it to say that the barrel must be 18" or longer (1/8" under is a felony) and the overall length if with buttstock is 26" (Mine fits both parameters).
No long shots here. But, in the case of a home invasion or someone trying to carjack you and you can get your hands on it, it is the perfect weapon. No night sights needed. Other than that, I can see little use for it.
At 12’ to 14’ distance the spread (assuming “open cylinder” - which is what a sawed off barrel will be), will be about 8-inches in diameter or so. So yes - a lot of .38 caliber rounds going into the perp - but you still need to aim. But easier to aim a short shotgun than a pistol.
And practice. And use buckshot. Birdshot at that distance will just piss the bad guy off unless you can hit him in the head, and maybe blind him.
2 or 3 rds. Limit is for hunting Game.
Get to know your local gun shop
Is the best advice.
Mosseburg makes factory barrels in various lengths for Rem 870 and the
Moss 500 as well as all their other shotguns. On the 500. Removing the barrel bolt holding it to the guns magazine tube allows removal of the plug expanding the available mag capacity. It also messes with migratory bird hunting rules. You can learn a lot on YouTube but hunting rules are best researched at you local Fish and Game office. Stay safe.
A PoleAx,,,
That’s for going Medieval!
What size Suit of Armor You Wear?
“Staring into 2 12gauge barrels would send any criminal heading for the hills, But the sound of a pump shotgun’ being racked has an even better effect.”
As an old and wise cop once told me. “Sounds like the gates of Hell slamming shut.”
I don’t have any armor at all. I grew up fascinated by arms and armor as the library in my home town of DeFuniak Springs was full of all kinds and it was all genuine.
Collected by the U.S. Ambassador to Scotland who was from DeFuniak. The one thing I would be amazed by was all the huge swords. I thought they must have been incredibly strong to wield them.
I later learned they were Scottish claymores intended for two handed use.
Wonder if he was the one I watched in 1971 in north Chicago just ouside the Navy Base. This friend and I decided to go out on the strip to this tavern. We were waiting at the intersection light, when several guys came boiling out of the bar hollering crap at each other. Back then it was always some kind of racial thing. We stood across the street watching then a North Chicago police cruiser pulled up. The officer (a really big guy) climbed out and with the radio mic on PA told the guys to clear the street and go back inside. Someone threw a beer glass or bottle toward him. He then pulled the pump shotgun out of the rack and jacked in a round with the mic keyed. Then said. I told you to get off the effing off of the street. Those guys went back in the bar together like they were brothers. My friend and I went back thru the gate to the enlistedmens club. The sound is impressive especially on a PA speaker.
My Winchester Model 1300 Defender (pistol grip) has an 18 inch barrel and an overall length to the back of the grip of 28 inches...Had it since the mid-90’s...Dbl 0 or flechettes are my choices...
Mossberg makes a combo pack.
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/mossberg-500-combo-pump-action-12-gauge-28-185-barrel-51-rounds?a=1800469
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Dittos on that.
[ For some reason, the idea of someone sneaking up on me while I am asleep has always bothered me. ]
That’s why I like a barking dog inside the house with me. Have 2 that will bark. I don’t scold them for doing it inside if they don’t like something outside.
I keep my 9mm loaded and pretty much near me. My state is concealed-carry without CCW. Yes, extra mags with it, too.
yikes
I have a brand-new Mossberg 500 with the optional pistol grip. It has both stock and pistol-grip. I only have birdshot. I’ve never fired it.
“18” Winchester Defender”
Nice piece among some practical 3-4 shotguns. Not sure what’s the preferred sequence, a round going off followed by racking another or vice-verse. Me, myself, personally leans to well oiled mechanical sounds....snick-snick.
California's shotgun laws are the same as Federal law: Minimimum barrel length of 18" and minimum overall length of 26".
You will note in the article that the author cut down the barrel of his shotgun to 19", still a legal length.
Yessir.
This might be a good thread for some advice...
We’re in a rural area and have chickens. I hate to kill snakes, but once one gets a taste for eggs, there’s really no alternative and some can get a bit aggressive once you confront them.
We have a 12 gauge semi-auto and there’s hardly any spread shooting a snake in front of you - surprisingly difficult to kill it in one shot. Since we really don’t have any other use for the gun, I’m thinking of cutting it down to give us more spread. But I suspect it’s still going to be like firing a canon.
Also have an old single shot .410 that I’ve never fired. It’s basically a junk gun. Thinking maybe I should cut that one down, put in a light load with small shot. Should kick less and since we never use it, it might be a better choice to experiment with, but if you miss you have to manually reload.
But I’m also wondering if it’s not worth the tinkering with either and maybe there’s a more appropriate firearm to deal with snakes and other critters at close range that won’t break the bank?
That .410 assuming it is safe to shoot sounds like just the thing for snakes. It is actually overkill for snakes. Cutting the barrel down would make it more handy but it would point better as is.
You are right to get the finest shot possible and also the least powerful.
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