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Mattis to send troops to Mexico border over migrant caravan
NY Post ^ | 10/25/2018 | Lia Eustachewich

Posted on 10/25/2018 9:42:17 AM PDT by Signalman

At least 800 US troops will be sent to the US-Mexico border in response to the caravan of thousands of migrants headed for America, according to a new report Thursday.

Defense Secretary James Mattis is expected to sign an order as early as Thursday authorizing the move, a source told the Associated Press.

The extra troops will be deployed to provide logistical support, including vehicles, tents and equipment, to Border Patrol agents.

About 2,000 National Guard troops are already assisting at the border under a previous Pentagon agreement.

The news comes after President Trump vowed in a Thursday morning tweet that he’s “bringing out the military for this national emergency.”

“They will be stopped!” the president wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: border; caravan; immigration; mattis
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To: Signalman

Total waste and symbolic gesture. Does nothing to stop them crossing the border.

Why bother when we know this does not work?


41 posted on 10/25/2018 11:30:54 AM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: tennmountainman
Only 800 troops? Against 10 or 14 thousand illegals?

They kinda ran right over the top of the 500 Mexican federales that were flown to the Guat/Mexican border. That was when the horde was about 2,000 not 12,000.

42 posted on 10/25/2018 11:40:52 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: sheana
You don’t have to force your way in if 1 by 1 they walk in and say they’re afraid....and allowed to stay

That abuse of our poorly drafted immigration laws means we cannot allow them to reach U.S. soil.

43 posted on 10/25/2018 11:57:00 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Leep

The military needs to seize and secure approximately 2 kilometers of Mexican territory right across the border and set up refugee camps there. Then have the UN administer the refugee camps. Does anyone think the Mexican military will defend their 2 kilometers of turf? I doubt it. It belongs to the cartels anyway and the Mexicans would love it if we killed them all.


44 posted on 10/25/2018 1:07:14 PM PDT by mosaicwolf
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Re-activate me!! PLEASE??


45 posted on 10/25/2018 3:22:57 PM PDT by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: tennmountainman
Only 800 troops? Against 10 or 14 thousand illegals?

The excerpt states that that is in addition to the 2000 National Guard that are already there. Add in another 1000 - 2000 Border Patrol and it's a pretty substantial force.

Besides, the crossing point can be completely blocked by rolls of concertina wire in a very short amount of time.

46 posted on 10/25/2018 3:57:52 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: gubamyster
Are you telling me we can't deploy our military (assuming we have the will) to secure our DOMESTIC border in less than 3 weeks?

Perhaps you're not familiar with U.S.C. 1385, aka Posse Comitatus Act. It specifically prohibits the use of our military in domestic policies. That's why our troops are limited to support operations.

47 posted on 10/28/2018 8:35:57 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Windflier
Sure there is. We just don't have the courage to use the means and methods at our disposal to stop this.

No, there isn't. CBP is ordering officers from non-Mexican border ports to the Southern Border and has been for years because staffing is so thin. Officers work six days a week, 12 to 18 hour shifts. They're not staffed to handle the normal border crossing traffic.

Even if BP was detailed to shore up the port, they'd still be too thin and BP is already under-staffed.

There's no way they can stop an additional swarm of several thousand illegals surging across the border. We SHOULD be able to stop this, but the time to prepare was years ago. It's too late.

48 posted on 10/28/2018 8:44:20 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: South Hawthorne
"We just don't have the courage to use the means and methods at our disposal to stop this."

No, there isn't. CBP is ordering officers from non-Mexican border ports to the Southern Border and has been for years because staffing is so thin. Officers work six days a week, 12 to 18 hour shifts. They're not staffed to handle the normal border crossing traffic.

Understood, but I wasn't just referring to that Border Patrol. I was referring to the combined forces at our country's disposal. We don't have the courage to deploy the assets we have, that could stop this.

49 posted on 10/28/2018 11:22:41 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: South Hawthorne
Perhaps you're not familiar with U.S.C. 1385, aka Posse Comitatus Act. It specifically prohibits the use of our military in domestic policies.

First, my understanding of Posse Comitatus Act is that the US military cannot be used against US citizens. These are not US citizens. By your definition we would NEVER be able to use the US military to protect our domestic border?

Secondly, my response was regarding the poster who said we our military could not be ready to protect our border within 3 weeks. Again, that seems absurd considering what if we were attacked by a foreign government - we would not be able to protect our border for 3 weeks? That doesn't make sense to me.

50 posted on 10/28/2018 1:31:27 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster
First, my understanding of Posse Comitatus Act is that the US military cannot be used against US citizens. These are not US citizens. By your definition we would NEVER be able to use the US military to protect our domestic border?

It could be done with an act of Congress, but they're all out campaigning and likely wouldn't come back for this, because the military is limited in how helpful it can be.

It's just like if you have a new hire at work. 80% of the work, the military won't be authorized, trained, familiar with. When we've done this in the past, they chiefly provide logistical support, which is great, but there's only so much logistical work that needs to be done.

Believe me, there's nothing I'd like better than to help our brave men and women of CBP and Border Patrol, this could be a terrible situation, but we needed staffing two years ago. It's too late.

51 posted on 10/28/2018 2:20:21 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Windflier
I was referring to the combined forces at our country's disposal. We don't have the courage to deploy the assets we have, that could stop this.

It's really a lot more involved than it appears on the surface. Legal authority, familiarity with laws and regulation, familiarity with the ports and terrain between ports, etc.

Unless you've undergone that training, a person's usefulness is limited.

I suppose you could have MPs assist in guarding detainees, engineers building detainment facilities, but that's pretty much all I can think of and the Posse Comitatus act can foul that all up in ways to horrible to imagine. You know some liberal judge will decide the involvement of the military illegal and order release of all the illegals.

52 posted on 10/28/2018 2:27:36 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: South Hawthorne
It's really a lot more involved than it appears on the surface. Legal authority, familiarity with laws and regulation, familiarity with the ports and terrain between ports, etc.

C-130 gunships and Apache attack helicopters have a way of cutting through those kinds of Gordian Knots.

53 posted on 10/28/2018 2:47:13 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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