Posted on 05/29/2019 12:37:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
May 27, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) Speaking with one of the best-known conservative Jews, Dennis Prager, at the PragerU summit last week, world-famous psychologist Jordan Peterson spoke of God and his views of faith. After speaking about his dislike for the question Do you believe in God? Peterson said, I think that Catholicism that's as sane as people can get.
Peterson has often been asked about his faith, if he believes in God, and he said the question has always troubled him. He promised a podcast on the matter since he has given his dislike for the question much thought.
He explained, Who would have the audacity to claim that they believed in God if they examined the way they lived? Who would dare say that?
To believe, in a Christian sense, he added, means that you live it out fully and that's an that's an unbearable task in some sense.
Then in one long drawn-out, rapid-fire thought, the type that has enthralled his millions of fans, he laid out extemporaneously the vision of a believer in God:
To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly; to aim at the good with all your heart; to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge and all of that; and to face things courageously and to tell the truth to speak the truth and to act it out, that's what it means to believe -- that's what it means -- it doesn't mean to state it, it means to act it out. And, unless you act it out you should be very careful about claiming it. And so, I've never been comfortable saying anything other than I try to act as if God exists because God only knows what you'd be if you truly believed.
See the full exchange of Peterson and Prager here.
Absolutely fact, as demonstrated in this forum many times.
Catholiciism doesn't recognize salvation now, it is a thing Catholics are commanded to 'strive for', which is contrary to what JESUS repeated for you 'seekers' in the John 6 passage so often used speciously by Catholiciism. No, I didn't miss the mark, you just can't stand The Truth about your cultish religion.
And you need not pull that faux detritus again about telling you what Catholics believe. The fatcs about Catholiciism (which you teach!) are well identified and exposed every time one of these threads is posted! Your religion is not Christianity because you deny the power thereof and deny the Truth of God's Garce as immediate and sealed immediately upon the human spirit confessing the Lord Jesus as Savior and Lord, as The One Whom God sent for our Salvation.
You Catholics are taught (and you are a teacher in catholiciism and don't admit this?) that salvation is something to strive for, so your works are essential to salvation. THAT IS NOT THE GOSPEL of GRACE, and you had better learn that soon, else don't take the mark, woman.
You offered, “May God grant you the greatest blessings”. Just so you get at least one clue, The God has graced me with one acute sense of discernment. I use it to expose the blasphemies and heresies of religions like Catholiciism and Mormonism. I also use that Gift from God to share the Truth found in God’s Word. I do not use it to teach the traditions of men, unlike teachers of Catholicism.
But it's not...The structure that upholds God's truth on Earth is the word(s) of God...God's words; God...
The church(es) are built upon the words of God, not the other way around...
The Catholic religion is built upon the words of men, with a shred of bible thrown in...
Jas_1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
The words of God save us, not the words of men in any church or any where else...
Joh_17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
God's words are truth, not the words of men which are added to the Bible...
Just because your religion makes the claim and you and others agree with it doesn't mean there's an ounce of truth to it...Doesn't matter what you say...It what God says that matters...And we all have that record of the saving words of God...
Amen!
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If you attended mass every day of the year, you still wouldnt get the whole of scripture.
(Why do I respond to you when you said you dont read all pings??)
It helps explain in part why RCs are so unfamiliar with the texts.
Pre-Vatican results were far worse. Practically very little exposure to Scripture for the average Roman Catholic.
“With no living Apostle the writings The Holy Spirit inspired from them IS THE ONLY reliable source of authority. The traditions of men is exactly one of the pins upon which JESUS condemned the Pharisees.”
Catching up...
Very good
I am not a Protestant, but just a Christian drawn into the kingdom of God by reading His Holy Spirit inspired Word
When I got to the Gospel of John I was overwhelmed by the Truth and saw The Light of Salvation
Peterson is brilliant, but sometimes a high degree of intellect causes some people to be very good with knowledge but miss the application of wisdom to it.
Our Lord becomes Present, Body and Blood, in the highest form of Worship. In most protestant forms, the highest form of worship is prayer, in
the Holy Mass the Ultimate Sacrifice is made real again and again and those of us in a State of Grace partake of His Flesh and Blood as He commanded.
Found this comment on the thread provided by AMPU. I'm not pinging the original poster due to the age of this comment.
However, her comments echo what many of us have said about the Mass, but is denied by many RCs.
The original poster is a Roman Catholic. Used to post a lot but hasn't in a while.
It echoes what I've posted from O'Brien's book the Faith of Millions.
Curious as to your opinion on this.
You have made some very good uplifting edifying comments but they have fallen on ears deafened by strict Catholicism and it’s traditions.
That’s why I don’t engage that particular poster because pearls are much to valuable to be cast at swine.
Nothing personal to anyone, just taken from the Bible
**King James Bible
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.**
I followed the whole dialogue and see that you have been “rended” repeatedly and actually judged, albeit couched in terms which attempt to not be seen as that.
Keep up the good work my brother in Christ
The main Person to Whom the Mass is addressed, is God the Father.
The main Person addressing the Father -- that is, "doing" the Mass--- is God the Son. He is offering Himself to the Father as the Sacrifice, the Lamb of God.
An altar is a place of sacrifice, a place of offering something to God, a place of encountering God. Jesus offered Himself on earth on the altar of the cross, and that offering is now made present on the Churchs altar. The altar is related to our Lords Passion and represents the cross.
The many altars of the OT are no longer in use! They have been fulfilled and superseded in Christ! Note that books of Hebrews and Revelation speak instead of an altar in Heaven (Heb. 7:13, 13:10 and Rev. 6:9, 8:3-5, 11:1). The altar of the NT is the Cross -- and the altar in Heaven.
This is the altar of the heavenly Liturgy, now invisible to us, in which we participate visibly at Mass, together with the angels and saints.
Every Mass makes reference to this heavenly and angelic dimension, in which we, the visible, pray with the invisible. From the First Eucharistic Preface (Notice Who is being addressed: God the Father. Notice through Whom He is being addressed: Christ Our Lord. Notice with whom we pray, singing their very words: Angels and Archangels.) ---
It is truly right and just, our duty and our salvation,
always and everywhere to give you thanks,
Lord, holy Father, almighty and eternal God,
through Christ our Lord.
For he is the true and eternal Priest,
who instituted the pattern of an everlasting sacrifice
and was the first to offer himself as the saving Victim,
commanding us to make this offering as his memorial.
As we eat his flesh that was sacrificed for us,
we are made strong,
and, as we drink his Blood that was poured out for us,
we are washed clean.
And so, with Angels and Archangels,
with Thrones and Dominions,
and with all the hosts and Powers of heaven,
we sing the hymn of your glory,
as without end we acclaim:
Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God of hosts
Heaven and Earth are full of Your glory.
Hosanna in the highest.
Blessed is He Who comes in the Name of the Lord.
Hosanna in the highest.
Why?
If it Doesn't trump Scripture then what good is it?
If it Doesn't trump Scripture then Scripture is all we need.
I've yet to hear from ANY Catholic why the bible is NOT sufficient to get a person saved and on to heaven.
Will you be the first?
Oh?
Is there another LETTER composed by the church leaders in that chapter; too??
I'm not blogging; I am FReeping!!!
I never noticed...
I'm more better than you; 'cause I can get 100 into mine!
Like I said; that's how YOU guys parse it.
1 Timothy 3:14-15
These things I write to you,
though I hope to come to you shortly;
but if I am delayed, I write
so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself
in the house of God, which is the church of the living God,
the pillar and ground of the truth.
If you would check a variety of translations, you will get the solid realization that we, the church, God's assembly, are to be this pillar and foundation upholding the truth, which is Jesus ("I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life").
...how one ought to behave in the household of God, . ... that thou mayest know how one ought to conduct oneself in God's house, which is [the] assembly of [the] living God, [the] pillar and base of the truth.(DBT) ... I now write, so that you may have rules to guide you in dealing with God's household. For this is what the Church of the ever-living God is, and it is the pillar and foundation-stone of the truth.(WNT) ... that you may know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the assembly of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.(WEB)
...and if I delay, that thou mayest know how it behoveth thee to conduct thyself in the house of God, which is an assembly of the living God -- a pillar and foundation of the truth.Young's Literal Translation
OK, so Who is the Truth? Jesus Christ.
which is the church of the living God,
a pillar and buttress of the truth. (ESV)
... how people must conduct themselves in the household of God.
This is the church of the living God,
which is the pillar and foundation of the truth. (NLT)
...so that you may know how it behooves one to conduct oneself
in the household of God, which is the church of the living God,
the pillar and base of the truth.(BLV)
... know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.(NAS)
...that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God,
which is
the church of the living God,
the pillar and ground of the truth.(KJV)
...you will know how everyone who belongs to God's family ought to behave.
After all, the church of the living God is the strong foundation of truth.(CEV)
... how people ought to conduct themselves in the household of God, because it is the church of the living God, the support and bulwark of the truth.(NETB)
... that thou may know how it is expedient to behave thyself in the house of God, which is
the congregation {Gr. ekklesia called out ones} of the living God, the pillar and base of the truth.(JB2000)
WHAT is the pillar and foundation( or ground - buttress - base - strong foundation- support - foundation-stone) of the Truth? It is the church --- the ekklesia ("called-out ones"), us, the members of the church.
Galatians 2:9
James and Cephas and John, those esteemed as pillars,
James, Kephas, and John, known to be the pillars...
James, Peter, and John, who were known as pillars of the churc,...
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Revelation 3:12
The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it.
Ephesians 2:20
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets,Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone.
GOD ain't gonna do much good iffn MHGinTN don't darken the doors of a Catholic church; now is He?
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