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US Navy to replace touchscreens with mechanical controls
Naval Technology ^ | August 12, 2019 | Harry Lye

Posted on 08/15/2019 11:24:55 AM PDT by CedarDave

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To: fproy2222

I guess elevators are out now, too. :(


41 posted on 08/15/2019 12:15:36 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CedarDave
likely related to devices that are taking over the piloting of ships and planes. Which is why I believe there has been a number of really odd navel "accidents"

FAA gave a warning about this to small aircraft not long ago.

42 posted on 08/15/2019 12:19:43 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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43 posted on 08/15/2019 12:21:47 PM PDT by z3n
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It just seems like touch screens and weapon systems are bad combo.


44 posted on 08/15/2019 12:21:51 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: RoosterRedux

Me also driving the manual truck. The only thing on touchscreen vehicles that appeals to me is the back-up camera.


45 posted on 08/15/2019 12:24:39 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: CedarDave
replace touchscreens with mechanical controls
That's something car makers are starting to do. A lot of people (including me) are sick of touchscreen controls in their cars.
Give me the "old fashioned" knobs, dials and push buttons every time.
46 posted on 08/15/2019 12:25:31 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: CedarDave
But, but, they seem to work fine on the Star Trek Next Generation bridge, especially when used by Data!

I am with the Navy on this, I think with old style controls, rather than touch screens give better feedback to the user. Especially like in the original Star trek, where the panels would short out and explode in a cloud of sparks, possibly taking out a red shirt along with it. Now that was feedback!

47 posted on 08/15/2019 12:27:42 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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48 posted on 08/15/2019 12:27:54 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Roccus

Few things get your attention quicker than “Man Aft Steering”! over the 1MC in a high traffic area.


49 posted on 08/15/2019 12:27:55 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: CedarDave

Like a modern car radio!


50 posted on 08/15/2019 12:29:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: CedarDave

Mechanical hand crank car windows almost never failed.


51 posted on 08/15/2019 12:32:42 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Mr. K
Poor software design, not poor technology.

I disagree. Instead of a screen dimmer which is readily accessible, guys on a new civilian ship started just throwing their jackets over the screen because they could not readily dim it at night. Turns out that they needed to go to a sub-menu of a sub-menu. The red light should be a quick and easy switch not a time consuming hunt through several screens.

52 posted on 08/15/2019 12:33:15 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Vince Ferrer

It was also career advice !

Don’t be a red shirt!


53 posted on 08/15/2019 12:33:42 PM PDT by Reily
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To: RoosterRedux

Yep, It had gone beyond all intelligent logic now.


54 posted on 08/15/2019 12:34:21 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Moonman62

“I despise touchscreens.”

Ditto. First things I do with a new laptop is turn off the touchscreen and turn off the touchpad.


55 posted on 08/15/2019 12:35:24 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." A. Lincoln)
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To: CedarDave

In high-stress, high-adrenalin situations, the first thing to deteriorate is fine motor control. That do you need to work touch screens? Fine motor control. Duh.


56 posted on 08/15/2019 12:44:45 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (God be greater than the worries in my life, be stronger than the weakness in my mind, be magnified.)
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To: CedarDave

When you are talking about a system as important as the steering of a battleship, why aren’t there redundant controls? Why not have the touchscreens but have mechanical controls in place to override the touchscreens if the need arises? Airplanes that are much, much more weight sensitive than a battleship have numerous redundant systems.


57 posted on 08/15/2019 12:47:47 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Reverend Wright
Believing complicated controls and screens....

I was in a sports car with a manual transmission and the driver got stuck in a rut on the side of the road. I watched her try several times to get it out. I then said I think I can do this if you will let me try.

So, got in the driver's seat, put it in first gear, let the clutch out slightly and as the car rocked up the side of the rut, pushed it in again. Rocked up the other side and let the clutch out again.

Couple of rocks and I was up and out of the rut. Standard maneuver with a manual transmission. Try doing that with an automatic transmission with a touch screen.

Some of these human-machine interfaces have been designed over decades. Some over millennia. They work because they have evolved over time to be the best way to do it.

58 posted on 08/15/2019 12:50:16 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Moonman62
I despise touchscreens.

Particularly in cars/trucks. If the driver has to take eyes off the road to determine what state the controls are in and switch them to the state he desires, then the controls are badly designed. And many controls in cars from the last few years are badly designed. Touch screens almost guarantee this form of bad design.

59 posted on 08/15/2019 12:53:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: trisham

“I guess elevators are out now, too. :(”

Carry something in both hands and ask a the nice person next to you to push the buttob. He/she/it will go away felling happy that they got to help someone.


60 posted on 08/15/2019 12:54:27 PM PDT by fproy2222 (MAGA)
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