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Rodents Are Feasting On Newer Cars' Soy-Based Wiring Insulation
www.thedrive.com ^ | By Justin Hughes May 15, 2018

Posted on 10/10/2019 11:07:08 AM PDT by Red Badger

It seems that making insulation out of an edible substance makes it more appealing to pests.

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In an effort to be more friendly to the environment, companies are making more and more automotive components out of renewable materials, such as soy or even cannabis. Unfortunately, a side effect of building cars out of edible materials is that rodents are eating them, reports the Detroit Free Press.

The use of soy in car parts is nothing new. Ford has been making seats out of a soybean-based foam for the past ten years. Ford also uses soy rather than petroleum for wire insulation. However, some owners have been running into unforeseen problems when rodents find their way into cars and eat the edible insulation.

Ford is not alone in suffering this problem. In 2016, a class-action lawsuit was filed against Toyota claiming the company should cover this type of damage after Albert Heber was forced to pay around $1,500 to fix the chewed wiring in his 2012 Tundra under warranty.

"We think the addition of soy in the insulation has taken the episode of rats chewing through the wires through the roof," attorney Brian Kabateck, who is involved with the class-action lawsuit, told the Detroit Free Press.

Toyota, however, denies that modern insulation is any more appealing to rodents than the old petroleum-based insulation. “Rodent damage to vehicle wiring occurs across the industry, and the issue is not brand- or model-specific. We are currently not aware of any scientific evidence that shows rodents are attracted to automotive wiring because of alleged soy-based content," the company retorted.

Toyota is correct that the problem is not limited to any particular brand or model. The use of renewable materials such as soy has spread across the entire automotive industry, which means that despite the class-action lawsuit applying only to owners of 2012 to 2016 Toyotas, similar issues could occur in pretty much any modern car.

Mouse infestations in vehicles, even those that are driven regularly, have been a problem for a long time. A furry visitor recently made a home in my VW Jetta Ute project, and I've cleaned rodent nests out of other cars in the past. Mice chewing wires and causing electrical problems is nothing new. But now that soy has become popular as an insulation, instances of this type of problem appear to be on the rise.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Food; Gardening
KEYWORDS: cars; rodents; vehicles; wiring
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To: Secret Agent Man

41 posted on 10/10/2019 11:54:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Red Badger

Put a couple Mothballs in toilet paper tubes secure the ends with strips to keep the balls in but gaps to let the smell out.
Don’t put them near the cowl area where the climate air intake or inside the car, but a couple in the front by the core support area.
Under the car wherever you can secure them.
If you can, put them in containers where you park your car.

Everyone should check their AF box for kibble and or nuts.
I have seen them actually stuffed so full the engine can’t breath right.


42 posted on 10/10/2019 12:00:45 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: Red Badger

Oh great.
Your mechanic is going to love you.


43 posted on 10/10/2019 12:02:25 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: Red Badger

YRMV. Have been proactive on feeding mice and rats all the treated alfalfa they want on a periodic basis. Former time spent in Livermore and similar dry climates raises one’s awareness of Hantavirus vectors.

The anecdotal reports tout the essential oil extract as an irritant which repels rodents. That is why the post was written as an informative question. The peppermint oil is inexpensive and has the added factor of non-toxicity.


44 posted on 10/10/2019 12:11:04 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Red Badger

Ground squirrel’s chewed up 65 year old Mercedes-Benz wiring.


45 posted on 10/10/2019 12:14:05 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: cuban leaf

Our nearest rural neighbor has a cat who like to escape the neighbor’s house, and come visit to eat mice on our property.

I _love_ that cat!

Here kitty, kitty.


46 posted on 10/10/2019 12:15:01 PM PDT by cgbg (Vote Trump or you will _be_ Trump)
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To: G Larry

Prius has it. Has for many years.

It’s a real problem in the high desert areas.


47 posted on 10/10/2019 12:15:08 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Vigilanteman
"There is a commercial grade spray called Roper
which is specifically repulsive to skunks"

I use mothballs to get rid of ground hogs and other rodents.
Seems to work but it stinks up the area for awhile.

48 posted on 10/10/2019 12:17:18 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Red Badger

It looks like she’s a giant bunny and those clackers could cut through hardened Inconel.


49 posted on 10/10/2019 12:20:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: cuban leaf

I’d trade you bunnies for my deer. We are overrun with them and they even breed faster than your bunnies.


50 posted on 10/10/2019 12:21:30 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: cgbg

In our area, some people really like the rat snakes for the same reason. They are like 5’ long garden snakes, but they eat mice.


51 posted on 10/10/2019 12:21:35 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: right way right

Those snooty BMW mechs need it................


52 posted on 10/10/2019 12:22:46 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Red Badger

Peppermint. Rats hate it. Spray the engine compartment with peppermint extract.


53 posted on 10/10/2019 12:22:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Heh. I have a 1/4 mile long driveway. I had to stop for five deer crossing in front of my car ON MY DRIVEWAY on Tuesday on my way to work. They wreak havoc on my garden 0 and the front end of my cars.


54 posted on 10/10/2019 12:23:45 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Red Badger

Had my Nissan Murano in for service last week and rodents had made a nest under my air filter.


55 posted on 10/10/2019 12:24:19 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

We have both rats and squirrels to deal with.

Both like to make a nest under the hood...................


56 posted on 10/10/2019 12:25:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Red Badger

We had a couple of Volvo cars in the late 80s when our kids were being born. Always liked their performance, braking, acceleration (even with a turbocharged four-banger). The station wagon developed an annoying habit of randomly activating the ABS when slowing below 15 mph. I kept taking it to the dealer and they could find nothing. They kept it for longer and longer periods to experience it. After 26 (yes, really, TWENTY SIX) visits to the shop, they finally called in an engineer from Sweden to diagnose it. He quickly found that the wiring harness was faulty. To Volvo’s credit, they kept extending the warranty for me and I didn’t have to pay a dime for all the diagnostic and repair work. They ended up changing out the entire wiring harness and the problem stopped.

I wonder if the wiring harness had been eaten by critters? I always figured it was poor weatherization that caused connectors to corrode, but maybe it was rodents.


57 posted on 10/10/2019 12:25:39 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I would not be surprised if it was rats, mice or squirrels.................


58 posted on 10/10/2019 12:26:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Red Badger

You an spray cayenne juice over the engine but, of course, your engine may run “hot”.


59 posted on 10/10/2019 12:28:31 PM PDT by Doche2X2
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To: Red Badger
My Dad has a Toyota Tacoma. He loves the truck, but mice keep getting into the engine compartment and chewing up his wiring. He parks the vehicle outside, and he has had to repair the wiring harness several times.

Now you open the hood of his truck and he has the engine compartment festooned with rodent repellent hang-tags. It looks ridiculous and smells worse, but the damage has stopped.

60 posted on 10/10/2019 12:29:19 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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