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Coronavirus Live Thread. No. 11. (Weekend)
3/6/2020

Posted on 03/06/2020 12:19:11 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Continuation of Thread

No 10 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3821921/posts


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; chloroquine; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; globaldoom11; livethread; remdesivir; wuhansarscov2
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To: richardskeet
Good post and what I hypothesize.

Missing is how much viral load ultimately results in infection. If it is a minuscule amount of virus, then latency will be longer. If larger amounts result in more rapid onset, then ultimately we should be able to discern that.

After studying how cellular replication occurs via the ACE2 pathway, I'm concerned even very small viral loads are potentially harmful.
1,741 posted on 03/07/2020 10:02:34 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: All

Coronavirus/COVID-19 has arrived at the FR HQ area:

https://abc30.com/health/madera-co-resident-being-treated-for-coronavirus-first-known-case-in-the-area/5993339/


1,742 posted on 03/07/2020 10:02:57 PM PST by Drago
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To: Jane Long

Yes, NYC. There are 3 of them right near me. They are traditionally overstock places, so they don’t always have everything you need. OK, though.


1,743 posted on 03/07/2020 10:03:52 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Persevero

Don’t worry about me. It’s kind of you, but I’ve been told it’s not necessary.


1,744 posted on 03/07/2020 10:05:52 PM PST by firebrand
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To: RummyChick

My daughter has several allergies. Her dr told her to have Benadryl and one of those stomach meds on hand to take together, if needed. I think there’s something to this, but would love for a dr to chime in.


1,745 posted on 03/07/2020 10:20:36 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: blueplum; NautiNurse

https://amp-miamiherald-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article240991126.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15836685152537&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.miamiherald.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics-government%2Farticle240991126.html

Worker at Port Everglades has tested positive.


1,746 posted on 03/08/2020 5:01:42 AM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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The Italians are here.


1,747 posted on 03/08/2020 11:22:38 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: richardskeet

Thank you skeet for your contribution!

I know everyone wants to understand the epidemiology/spread transmission part of this new disease, but whatever happens ought to connect to the virology/etiology of the virus. The unique behavior within an infected host is explained by the interaction of furin and ace2 with the spike protein on the germ. Outside the body we need to know whether it is transmitted in some unique way or whether we can assume it behaves like the other corona viruses.

I am reading a lot on flutracker and other places. Thanks everyone for the knowledge and help.

I don’t see anyone in a state of panic. You see anything?
The death rate from preparing for the worst is so far almost nearly approaching a figure which can be reliably understood to be synonymous with the value ZERO!
I doubt that this one is the big one, but it is only a matter of time until we do get the big one, so why not lets practice now?
Thoughts?


1,748 posted on 03/08/2020 12:35:04 PM PDT by BDParrish ( Please correct me! I never learned anything from anybody who already agreed with me.)
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To: Solson

Lochner found a geek who is doing real-time updates on US numbers by state—bookmark this!:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18oVRrHj3c183mHmq3m89_163yuYltLNlOmPerQ18E8w/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true


1,749 posted on 03/08/2020 2:13:47 PM PDT by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Vermont Lt

Was FR down for anyone else? Haven’t been able to get on all day until now. Got No response from server


1,750 posted on 03/08/2020 2:15:03 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: richardskeet

International numbers updated in real time—bookmark this:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


1,751 posted on 03/08/2020 2:15:44 PM PDT by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Pollard

Down all day. For all.


1,752 posted on 03/08/2020 2:17:12 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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Netherlands reports 77 new cases of coronavirus and 2 new deaths,

Spain reports 96 new cases of coronavirus and 7 new deaths,

France reports 177 new cases of coronavirus and 3 new deaths,

Italy reports 1,492 new cases of coronavirus and 133 new deaths, raising total to 7,375 cases and 366 dead


1,753 posted on 03/08/2020 2:17:19 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: cgbg

I listened to Lochner’s updates and I have a bunch of comments now that FR is back on line (Thank you, Jim Robinson!).

I will post them one topic at a time—there is a lot of new info to discuss today.


1,754 posted on 03/08/2020 2:17:59 PM PDT by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Jane Long

time to do this
BNO Newsroom
@BNODesk
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Israel is considering to require travelers from all countries to go into home quarantine for 14 days, a move that would effectively cut off tourism. A meeting will take place on Monday - Reuters


1,755 posted on 03/08/2020 2:18:25 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: cgbg

Thanks for that link.


1,756 posted on 03/08/2020 2:19:17 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: janetjanet998

I’d say that Israel is taking this very seriously.


1,757 posted on 03/08/2020 2:20:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: cgbg

Italy:

The deaths normally do not tell the story (imho) but, with large numbers like Italy it shows how far testing is behind the rate of actual disease spread.

In Italy the death rate is tripling every few days while the reported case rate is doubling every few days.

That means every day testing gets further and further behind the actual infected rate.

Tests get irrelevant once the disease spreads out of control.

_That_ is why Italy is panicking and having big time area quarantines.


1,758 posted on 03/08/2020 2:21:13 PM PDT by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: RightGeek
Instapundit update - monring 3/8 - https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/360724/

CORONAVIRUS UPDATE: There Is a ‘Tipping Point’ Before Coronavirus Kills.

Hong Kong records third coronavirus death: health authorities.

Moscow city: people ignoring coronavirus self-isolation rules could face prison.

Italy takes drastic measure of locking down northern economic hubs to curb coronavirus.

Grand Princess cruise ship headed for Oakland; US death toll at 19.

Coronavirus: UN Asks 9 Countries to Delay Peacekeeper Rotations.

Vietnam’s coronavirus cases jump to 29: health ministry.

Iran reports 49 new coronavirus deaths, highest single-day toll.

Stephen Moore: ‘Economy will roar back to life’ when coronavirus is contained.

Quarantined at home now, U.S. scientist describes his visit to China’s hot zone.

Coronavirus Data Is Still Misleading. Here’s What the Latest Numbers Don’t Tell You. “When the existing prevalence of a virus is high and endemic, the rise in incidence of testing can create the appearance of a rise in incidence of a virus.”

Uber, DoorDash and Others Discuss Fund for Drivers Affected by Coronavirus.

1,759 posted on 03/08/2020 2:21:29 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: janetjanet998

Coumo news conference this morning: we are finding asymptomatic cases


1,760 posted on 03/08/2020 2:22:42 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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