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I try to do something productive every day. Even if it's just looking for something productive, I count it.
1 posted on 04/05/2020 9:59:01 AM PDT by Mariner
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ping to new daily thread.


2 posted on 04/05/2020 10:00:32 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I suspect I have had my meeting with WuHan a couple of weeks ago here in Florida. My county is showing fewer than 20 cases officially but in the middle of last month many people had flu symptoms, most minimal, and ascribed it to “allergies.” AND 20 people showing up as confirmed cases surely had the infection for 2-3 weeks previously.
I don’t have pollen allergies but sniffled for a few days and had a coughing spell like I have never experienced before, one short bout of rapid fire “dry” cough. I did not really know what was meant by dry cough before. Now I know. I also had a very bad and uncharacteristic headache for a day. Wife had another set of symptoms that should have presaged being very sick were it normal flu but did not get sick further. Daughter and her three boys the same, headaches and sniffles and some cough. SIL who is a pharmacy tech at the hospital had “tightness of chest for a week.” He has asthma so thought it was that but his inhaler did not help this time. I have heard neighbors say similar things. I work as a secutiry guard at a shipyard where men are sent home for 2 weeks if they show up with sniffles or cough. Surely all the germs do not go home with them. Many of the guys have “felt funny” for a couple of days. I have come to believe that millions more have been infected by WuHan Flu than credited with it but for maybe 90% it is a little thing that might not be even noticed. If that is the case I do hope it confers immunity, at least for the current version and, if that is the case then all the shutdown and hysteria is merely the nation beating itself into the ground for no good reason. Quarantining is not accomplishing anything because the infected ones have already spread it about prolifically.


3 posted on 04/05/2020 10:02:44 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe in WuHan/)
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Thanks Mariner.

https://twitter.com/lookner/status/1246830942741815300?s=20

Boston ER doc saying they've started to see people who have previously been discharged back at hospital even sicker (starts at 0:43)

This guy looks tired and emotionally drained. Feel for these HC workers.

4 posted on 04/05/2020 10:02:52 AM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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Bkmk


6 posted on 04/05/2020 10:06:44 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: Larry Lucido; Red in Blue PA; Gamecock; SaveFerris; FredZarguna; KC_Lion; Lil Flower; CopperTop

8 posted on 04/05/2020 10:07:20 AM PDT by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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This is my latest plot. The equation is the Gompertz function. The good news is that growth in the US is no longer exponential. The bad news is that we have not yet hit peak daily cases or death.


13 posted on 04/05/2020 10:30:48 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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Since the media are ramping up the "Trump has blood on his hands, Trump is incompetent" theme, I'm trying to imagine how/if it would have been different under a Hillary presidency.

1. We would have had essentially the same bureaucracy in the CDC, giving essentially the same advice, and having the same degree of preparation, or lack thereof. As under Trump, that advice would change over time.

2. Because of #1, we would have had the same problems with delayed testing, shortages of masks, and shortages of ventilators.

3. Hillary would have been less likely than Trump to implement an early China travel ban.

4. Trump formed his CV task force on January 30th, when there were only a handful of person-to-person transmission cases in the US, only about 20 cases overall, and no deaths. It is unlikely Hillary would have acted sooner.

5. In late January and early February, the World Health Organization was still downplaying the seriousness of the disease, as was the CDC and Dr. Fauci in particular ("the average American has little to worry about"). It is unlikely that would have been different under Hillary.

6. Major public gatherings continued to be held nationwide until late February. There is no evidence Hillary would have prevented it.

7. Governors in some states began imposing various degrees of limitations on commercial and social activity in early to mid-March. It is unlikely that Hillary would have had any effect on that, one way or the other.

8. There is no evidence that Hillary would have worked to loosen governmental red-tape sooner than Trump, or to partner with private business sooner than Trump. Neither strategy is in her political DNA.

In short, there is no reason to believe that Hillary's response would have been quicker, and some reason to think it would have been slower. HOWEVER, unlike the way they are with Trump, the press would not be attacking Hillary on a daily basis, and would probably be praising her, so the PERCEPTION that things were being handled better would be a lot stronger than it is now.
16 posted on 04/05/2020 10:44:16 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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I watched Sharknado 3 today... seems to make more sense than all of this COVID-19 reporting.


20 posted on 04/05/2020 10:59:48 AM PDT by maddog55
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Did you read the genome sequencing article on the virus yesterday in the Slimes?


27 posted on 04/05/2020 11:10:38 AM PDT by datura
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Should have seen slick Faucifake slither his way with that lady morning interview question, does he wear a mask. Deflected right onto his wife, and never answered directly!


42 posted on 04/05/2020 12:01:33 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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https://twitter.com/CJinKnoxTN/status/1246824303074705408
Modelling and NY.


54 posted on 04/05/2020 12:46:56 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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69 posted on 04/05/2020 1:38:45 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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Almost missed it! Thanks, Mariner!

I worshiped with my church family online, planted zucchini, then added a new “room” onto my chicken coop for my new babies. All In all a productive day.


88 posted on 04/05/2020 2:22:02 PM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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And in other news:

Refugees are Still Arriving in the US, What Happened to Supposed Suspension?

101 posted on 04/05/2020 2:37:55 PM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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Thank you, Mariner, for Corona Virus Daily Thread #38! We appreciate it.


103 posted on 04/05/2020 2:43:31 PM PDT by Em and Brets Mum ("Lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel." - Proverbs 20:15)
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Getting out of bed is productive.

Seriously, you have good advice for all of us at this time. Just finished a chore that’s taken a year to get to and will tackle another later.


156 posted on 04/05/2020 4:32:28 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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Reading the whole thing will put a smile on your face (Via https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/363874/) -

AUSSIE BEATDOWN: Tim Blair Delivers An Old-Fashioned Fisking to the Chinese Propaganda Apparat, And It’s Brutal.

Excerpt:

The Daily Telegraph this week received a letter from the Australian Consulate General of the People’s Republic of China, who took gentle issue with our excellent coverage of the coronavirus crisis.

Following is a point-by-point response to the Consulate General and China’s communist dictatorship:

Recently the Daily Telegraph has published a number of reports and opinions about China’s response to COVID-19 that are full of ignorance, prejudice and arrogance.

If a state-owned newspaper in China received this kind of complaint, subsequent days would involve journalists waking up in prison with their organs harvested.

Tracing the origin of the virus is a scientific issue that requires professional, science-based assessment.

Sure it does. How professional and science-based was the claim published on March 12 by China’s foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian that “it might be US Army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan”?

The origin of the virus is still undetermined, and the World Health Organization has named the novel coronavirus “COVID-19”.

The World Health Organisation also appointed Zimbabwean murderer Robert Mugabe as its Goodwill Ambassador and declared on March 2 that the “stigma” of the coronavirus “is more dangerous than the virus itself”.

The World Health Organisation does a lot of stupid stuff.

So what is the real motive behind your attempt to repeatedly link the virus to China and even stating that the novel coronavirus was “made in China”?

Our motive is accuracy. That’s why we don’t link the virus to Bognor Regis or state that it was “made in Panama”.

The people of Wuhan made a huge effort and personal sacrifice to stop the spread of the epidemic.

Wuhan’s Dr Li Wenliang indeed made a huge effort to warn people about the coronavirus outbreak. Then, as the New York Times reported: “In early January, he was called in by both medical officials and the police, and forced to sign a statement denouncing his warning as an unfounded and illegal rumor.”

And now he’s dead, so that’s “personal sacrifice” covered as well.

Nevertheless, in order to capture attention and gain more internet hits, you called Wuhan the “Zombieland” and Wuhan seafood market the “bat market”. How low can you go?

In the civilised world, “Bradman bats and bats and bats” is a famous newspaper banner:

In Wuhan, it’s the name of a restaurant.

More at the link. Plus: “It was published on a double-page 6-7 spread in Saturday’s Daily Telegraph.”

The Chinese lied about the disease to keep from losing face. They’re about to find out that they chose poorly.

160 posted on 04/05/2020 4:47:55 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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When will restrictions be lifted?

So with a whole host of caveats, the following chart from DB shows a ‘football field’ representation of the range of possible timelines for the restart of activity in several countries. It includes the current period of lockdowns and the projected time line based on extrapolating the Chinese response. It is likely these countries will begin to loosen restrictions within the range based on the Hubei experience (light blue bar).

To be sure, the decision to relax restrictions depends very heavily on how the epidemic curve in each country progresses. This progression reflects decisions made up to 14 days earlier given the likely incubation period of the virus. In Hubei, the three-day growth rate in new cases decreased from over 200 per cent to 63 per cent in the 14 days after restrictions were put in place. Ultimately, it was 63 days after the restrictions were put in place until they were lifted.

The following table summarizes the potential dates that restrictions on civic and economic activity could end in various key countries.

Further Reading:

When Will The Coronavirus Lockdowns Be Lifted? Here Are One Bank's Estimates

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/when-will-coronavirus-lockdowns-be-lifted-here-are-one-banks-estimates

187 posted on 04/05/2020 5:23:02 PM PDT by amorphous
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Travis County confirmed COVID-19 cases up to 484 (Texas, 4/5/20)
225 posted on 04/05/2020 6:30:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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Coronavirus in Texas: 22 more deaths reported statewide; total cases climbs to 6,812 (4/5/20)
227 posted on 04/05/2020 6:34:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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