Posted on 05/28/2020 1:01:11 PM PDT by Meatspace
LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- A protester who participated in hanging an effigy of Kentucky's governor at an armed rally on the State Capitol grounds has been fired from his job at an auto dealer.
Neil Huffman Auto Group said it terminated the unidentified employee after an internal review, saying it “does not condone threats of violence in any form."
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To be fair I do think that Kathy Griffin lost her job.
To my knowledge she has not had a paying gig since.
I wonder, did those Gay Guys who hung an Effigy of Governor and GOP VP Candidate Palin from their House back in 2008 lose their Jobs?
Signed, Curious...
The actions in those two pictures are similarly situated, as are the actions of hanging Bush or Obama in effigy.
However, that is not the question.
The question is, can an employer fire someone for expressing such speech and then getting the name of the company associated with those expressions of speech?
I remember a Teacher in Orange County CA had her Class hitting a Trump Pinata. I wonder of she was ever Fired?
“I wonder, did those Gay Guys who hung an Effigy of Governor and GOP VP Candidate Palin from their House back in 2008 lose their Jobs?”
Would you have fired them if they worked for you?
Or lefts.
>>>“I wonder, did those Gay Guys who hung an Effigy of Governor and GOP VP Candidate Palin from their House back in 2008 lose their Jobs?”<<<
>>>Would you have fired them if they worked for you?<<<
Good question.
Depends if the Publicity involved my Company’s Name and the Employment Laws of my State. I wouldn’t hire Liberals unless I needed to in the first place.
Of course if I did fire them they would probably Sue me saying I fired then because they were Gay.
Doing so doesn't hurt them any.
Every employment attorney in the country will tell their client to never state a reason, unless it’s solid gold.
So on what grounds will he sue for his job back?
DUH!! Start a petition to REMOVE HIM!
Does Kentucky have a recall provision in its state constitution? Most states that came into the Union before the Civil War don’t have one.
“So on what grounds will he sue for his job back? “
An enterprising bullshit attorney will find multiple reasons why the STATED reason is untrue. Or “unfair”.
Juries buy their crap by the ton.
“They could have fired him without any comment or statement at all and avoided the risk of suit and notoriety.
What risk of suit? Kentucky is an employment at will state. The dealership can fire the guy for any reason, or no reason, so long as they don’t violate the law by doing so.”
The auto dealer did in fact open himself up to a law suit. When you fire someone, just fire them. “Bob, I’m sorry to let you go but the company is going in a different direction. It’s been good working with you. Good Luck.”
There is such a thing as wrongful termination. People can be fired illegally. That being said, an employer has no obligation to give a reason for firing and should not in order to avoid law suites.
“So on what grounds will he sue for his job back? “
An enterprising bullshit attorney will find multiple reasons why the STATED reason is untrue. Or “unfair”.
Juries buy their crap by the ton.”
He could sue on 1st Amendment grounds saying he was fired for expressing his political beliefs and he’d be right. The employer should have just done it.
And I am sure the fact that he was fired because he hung the governor in effigy will have a positive impact on the jury as well. </sarcasm>.
On what grounds?
There is such a thing as wrongful termination. People can be fired illegally.
Yes, if they violate state and federal laws when doing it. You cannot fire anyone on account of age or race or religion or any number of other reasons that divide people into protected classes. But last time I checked 'idiot' is not a protected class in any state.
That being said, an employer has no obligation to give a reason for firing and should not in order to avoid law suites.
I suspect the dealership would welcome the chance to defend this particular firing.
Ky has no provision to recall a constitutional officer or federal House member or Senator.
During drafting, the New York deligation lobbied for recall provisions to be inserted. They felt 6 years for senators was too much power for too long.
Maybe they need one for governor. Recall for congressman or senator would be unconstitutional.
During drafting, the New York deligation lobbied for recall provisions to be inserted. They felt 6 years for senators was too much power for too long.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda. I wonder if they raised it again when the Bill of Rights was being debated in Congress and just couldn't get enough support?
I dispute the claim that hanging in effigy a public official is truly a threat of or act of violence.
It is a traditional method of public protest for corrupt officials. Has been for hundreds of years. Maybe I’m incorrect on this, but I did not think this method of protest was to be taken as an effort to incite an actual hanging.
Any history buffs care to enlighten me on this subject?
If Terry was not representing the dealership and wasn’t on their clock at the time, then it’s no business of the dealership. Terry’s symbolic display caused no real harm to anybody while Beshear’s actions over the past several weeks have caused real harm to lots of people and businesses.
“I suspect the dealership would welcome the chance to defend this particular firing.”
If I were the employer I’d shut up and let it go away. Nothing about this will be good for anyone. KY is largely republican and Beshear is hated and his detractors buy cars as well.
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