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Advice requested for how to defend myself against discrimination for not getting the Fauci-Ouchie (vaccine)
self | 05/21/2021 | Self

Posted on 05/20/2021 11:48:02 PM PDT by know.your.why

I've got job interviews coming up and I am a little nervous about being asked whether I've had the CV19 vaccine.


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KEYWORDS: covid; covid1984; discrimination; vaccine
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To: know.your.why

You’re not a protected class. Be honest. Not possible for you to be discriminated against.


81 posted on 05/21/2021 5:28:04 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: DoodleDawg
1. I'm envisioning a scenario where telling the truth about something that's none of their business will mean you don't get the job anyway -- so what difference does it make?

2. How would they find out that you lied?

3. As I also said in that post, I honestly don't think most companies even want to know about these vaccines.

82 posted on 05/21/2021 5:29:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Qiviut

For later, thanks


83 posted on 05/21/2021 5:33:06 AM PDT by The FIGHTIN Illini (Wake up fellow Patriots before it's too late)
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To: Chicory

They can demand proof of anything. I work with HR. Technically, it is illegal but rules are made to be broken by liberals. It’s why companies can say “You must be vaxxed to be hired” but mean “We will exceptions for some groups”.


84 posted on 05/21/2021 5:33:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: know.your.why

Tell them you’re a Covid “survivor.”

(Hint: we all are)


85 posted on 05/21/2021 5:37:47 AM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: Alberta's Child
1. I'm envisioning a scenario where telling the truth about something that's none of their business will mean you don't get the job anyway -- so what difference does it make?

I don't think that the question is appropriate for an interview and will likely not be asked. But if it is then answering "Not yet" is a good, generic answer and can't be taken to mean "Not under any circumstances.

2. How would they find out that you lied?

If they hire you and ask for proof of vaccination. More companies, not a majority but more, are requiring vaccination for new employees.

3. As I also said in that post, I honestly don't think most companies even want to know about these vaccines.

Most? I agree that most probably won't require it. But lie and accept a job with one that does and I guarantee your time there will be short.

86 posted on 05/21/2021 5:39:42 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Hulka

It is a violation, but this person should think about the type of environment they want to work in.


87 posted on 05/21/2021 5:42:38 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (The way to deal with bad ideas is to go through via critical thought, not around)
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To: know.your.why

Quite simply you do not want to work for a company that would have you betray your conscience medically. If this, what may be next?

My advice, if they ask, simply say no and ask if they would FORCE you to take it. If they say yes simply end the interview right then and there. If nothing else this at least shows the company that their decision has consequences.


88 posted on 05/21/2021 5:45:51 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: know.your.why

Tell them the FDA still has not approved the vaccine

Or else just say, ‘I mailed it in’ 😊


89 posted on 05/21/2021 5:48:30 AM PDT by SMARTY ( "Force always attracts men of low morality. " Albert Einstein)
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To: MachIV

No


90 posted on 05/21/2021 5:48:31 AM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: nevergore

HIPAA has nothing to do with employers


91 posted on 05/21/2021 5:52:11 AM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: sten

Best and simplest answer: “ I have all vaccines approved by the FDA.”


92 posted on 05/21/2021 5:54:21 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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To: Dusty Road

The VA shows 259,832 cases with 12,046 deaths. This is 5% which is extremely high compared to the rest of the nation.


93 posted on 05/21/2021 5:56:54 AM PDT by sleddogs
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To: PGalt

what did u learn from my post? I am confused.


94 posted on 05/21/2021 5:58:54 AM PDT by ronniesgal (Hillary wants to be Governor of New York!!)
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To: know.your.why

Tell them you will wear a mask. That’s pretty much “the” choice these days.


95 posted on 05/21/2021 6:00:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (. )
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To: know.your.why
Politely inform them that asking health questions is a potential ADA violation unless it directly relates to your ability to do the job.

For example if you are applying for a job as a picker they can ask you if you can lift a certain amount but they may not ask you if you are diabetic. One relates to ability to do your job, the other does not.

What state are you in? You may have some other protections depending on your state law.

96 posted on 05/21/2021 6:01:59 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. (I'm not interested in your dopey religious cult.))
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To: zeestephen

“All future employers are worried about their liability if they hire someone who has not been vaccinated.”

And won’t they have a conundrum when it turns out that the vaxxed employees are the ones dropping like flies?


97 posted on 05/21/2021 6:08:01 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence - Prof. Dean Alfange)
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To: DoodleDawg
This whole discussion is silly because the requirements, for most jobs, are not only pointless but also unenforceable. Heck -- even the CDC and National Institutes of Health

More companies, not a majority but more, are requiring vaccination for new employees.

Just read that and understand how stupid that approach is. "If you're 60 years old and you've been working here for 30 years you don't have to be vaccinated, but if you are 20 years old and starting next week you do." So the person who is the higher risk for COVID doesn't have to be vaccinated, but the one who is the lower risk does? LOL.

I am an honest person by nature -- even more so in my professional work. And yet I would feel no moral or legal obligation to be truthful in a setting like that.

98 posted on 05/21/2021 6:09:07 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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You really want to lie on your job interview? Or when you go on a plane, to a concert or into a nursing home?

Just pick a vax and take it. I took the one shot J&J.

People around the world are dying in droves and suffering because they don’t have a vaccine.


99 posted on 05/21/2021 6:13:09 AM PDT by bhl
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To: MayflowerMadam; zeestephen
All future employers are worried about their liability if they hire someone who has not been vaccinated.

And won’t they have a conundrum when it turns out that the vaxxed employees are the ones dropping like flies?

You're both right. This is the single biggest reason why any employer who has had staff working from home for the last 14 months will seriously consider operating this way indefinitely and never bring them back.

I am on the e-mail distribution list for a number of major law firms where business associates of mine work. I get their newsletters and PR materials regularly, and legal articles about COVID and employer/employee relations have been a hot topic for the last six months (and more). I can tell you from what I'm reading now that the legal profession has no clue how to advise their corporate clients about dealing with COVID. The advice they give is often incoherent and contradictory, and the only determination I can make is that anything an employer does is going to put the company in potential serious legal jeopardy.

Consider this just one more reason to move your operations to Mexico or China.

100 posted on 05/21/2021 6:15:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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